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Political conservatives take the happiness prize hands down

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:50 pm
by Uncle Galt
I hope that you godless libs will see the light soon.

Your happy pal,
Uncle Galt

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1210562 ... lenews_wsj


Gross National Happiness
By Arthur C. Brooks


The advice will sound familiar: Get a job, get married, go to church and don't listen to wild-eyed utopians. In such a way, it is said, you will find your portion of happiness. To this list of imperatives Arthur C. Brooks would add one other: Avoid this summer's Democratic National Convention.

In "Gross National Happiness," Mr. Brooks has assembled an array of statistics to measure the mood of America's citizens and to discover the reasons they feel as they do. Most often he cites polls that ask for self-described happiness levels, matching up the answers with various beliefs, habits, life choices or experiences.


And what exactly is happiness? Who knows? The term might refer joy or contentment or moral self-approval or material well-being or appetitive pleasure – or some combination of them all. Mr. Brooks is aware of the problem. He says that Potter Stewart, the Supreme Court justice, could have been describing happiness when he said, of pornography, "I know it when I see it."

At the end of the day, Mr. Brooks notes, "political conservatives take the happiness prize hands down." Those who identify themselves as conservative or very conservative, he says, are twice as likely to say that they're very happy as those who identify themselves as liberal or very liberal. What explains the rightists' relative bliss? It seems that a conservative political disposition exists alongside other happy habits of being.

Mr. Brooks points especially to Holy Matrimony, with an emphasis on the Holy. Citing 2004 data, he writes that conservatives are twice as likely to go to church or temple once a week than liberals and that "two-thirds of conservatives are married versus only a third of liberals." Married conservatives, he says, are "more than three times likely to say they're very happy than single liberals to say they are very happy."

And though conservative religious people are often regarded as sexless puritans, they turn out to have 80% more kids than secular liberals, and their children tend to be religious, meaning that they'll probably further populate the Earth with more religious, right-leaning monogamists. This kind of news tends to cause secularists to feel very unhappy and increasingly outnumbered.

Marriage, Mr. Brooks reasonably observes, is not to be confused with total happiness, especially after those so-called bundles of joy begin arriving. "Children do not make for happier marriages," Mr. Brooks explains, thanks in part to certain burdens they bring with them, such as sleep deprivation, cleaning duty, financial worry and, for some families, the delight of getting to know a parole officer on a first-name basis. Senior couples that had no children, he adds, are no less happy than those who did. Yet the achievement of raising children makes kids part of a "happiness package." Curiously, or perhaps not, women are seven percentage points more likely than men to be "very happy after losing a spouse to death" and "9 points likelier to be very happy if never married."

And what about Mr. Brooks himself? Is he one of those sunny, hymn-singing types who are so hard to take at neighborhood picnics? He tells us that he is a Roman Catholic, though not of the ultramontane variety; he generally considers himself to be an "ebullient grouch." He says that he doesn't know whether faith produces happiness or happiness makes people want to practice their faith. The categories are "mutually reinforcing." He does firmly believe that the Founders were right to insist that the "pursuit of happiness" was central to the American creed; thus government policies should not hamper the pursuit.

He challenges those partial to tales about long-suffering Wal-Mart workers and surly burger flippers to rethink their victimology creed. The woe is not nearly as widespread as rumored: 89% of Americans who work more than 10 hours a week are very satisfied or somewhat satisfied with their jobs while only 11% are not very satisfied or not at all satisfied. Most surprisingly, Mr. Brooks writes, there "is no difference at all in job satisfaction between those with below-average and above-average incomes."

What really makes Americans hate their jobs is a perception that advancement is impossible. And while Mr. Brooks agrees that the nation's income gap is growing, the national happiness level is steady. Just under one-third of American adults say that they are "very happy"; up to 15% are not too happy; and everyone else is somewhere in the middle. Those numbers have been roughly true since the early 1970s. More government spending doesn't seem to raise happiness levels, though direct government assistance may diminish it. Charitable giving, Mr. Brooks adds, generally lifts the spirits; Americans do a lot of it.

"Gross National Happiness" ends with a list of policy suggestions: Government should aim for economic opportunity, not income equality; it should not penalize marriage with tax policies; and it should resist excessive security measures (think of the screening process at airports), which inhibit freedom and increase unhappiness.

In an observation of particular relevance at the moment, Mr. Brooks says that political "extremists" – who comprise 10% to 20% of the population – may be among the happiest people in America, because they "believe with perfect certainty in the correctness of their political dogmas." Yet their ferocity brings the rest of us down, so he suggests that political parties stop pandering to them. Good idea, though it sounds a little utopian.

Re: Political conservatives take the happiness prize hands d

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:13 pm
by Doug
Uncle Galt wrote:At the end of the day, Mr. Brooks notes, "political conservatives take the happiness prize hands down."
DOUG
So?

There is no correlation between whether someone is happy and whether someone has true beliefs.

I know Galt will be unable to comprehend this, but I would rather be unhappy with the truth than happy with false beliefs.

American conservatives are happy, but so are Muslim terrorists, Hindu mystics, Buddhist monks, and many others whose beliefs Galt would say are completely false.

I would say "nice try" to Galt, but this try was not even a very good one.

I'm not a liberal to be happy (although I am far happier having the truth about many things than if I did not), I am a liberal because it is the correct position to have with regard to morality and politics.

But that aside, conservatives are happier because with regard to the inequalities of life and the suffering of others, they just don't give a shit. So they can be happy even as others suffer.

Here's a quote from the study Galt loves:

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"Our research suggests that inequality takes a greater psychological toll on liberals than on conservatives," the researchers write in the June issue of the journal Psychological Science, "apparently because liberals lack ideological rationalizations that would help them frame inequality in a positive (or at least neutral) light."
The results support and further explain a Pew Research Center survey from 2006, in which 47 percent of conservative Republicans in the U.S. described themselves as "very happy," while only 28 percent of liberal Democrats indicated such cheer.

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DOUG
Galt sees inequality and suffering and loves it. So conservatives are happier.

This just underscores many points we've been making on this forum.

Thanks for the ammo, Galt. This makes me very happy! :D

Re: Political conservatives take the happiness prize hands d

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:28 am
by Dardedar
<<WHOOSH>> is the sound of Doug's explanation going over the head of Galt (who has already run off and is probably too afraid to even read responses).

In a nut shell:
Uncle Galt wrote: Quotes:
"What explains the rightists' relative bliss?"
DAR
Oh, that's easy. The phrase "ignorance is bliss" was created for these people.

But I don't even necessarily trust their claim here.

Note: as the article admits, there is no quantitative measurement going on here. Nothing could be more subjective. I am reminded of the many people who have left the Jehovah's Witness cult (bit of a specialty of mine). They often report that while in the group they acted very happy, told people they were blissfully happy, and may even have fooled themselves in to believing it some of the time. When they get out of the group and in effect wake up and face reality, they then report that they were in fact utterly miserable much of the time (hence the difficult struggle to finally get out). They report that they were scared shitless that they weren't doing enough to "please Jehovah" so they could get into paradise and now report that they feel they were fooling themselves with regard to happiness. Everyone else was doing it and they went along.

Which subjective experience/claim is the real one? We'll never know.

Best to live with reality and deal with reality rather than have comfort with pie in the sky. To each their own.

Conservatives like their answers nice and clear, black and white. Nuance makes them uncomfortable. It is one of the clearest attributes of conservatives. It may be the case that the human mind is better comforted by a belief system that provides what I have long called "simple answers a complex universe." But this doesn't change the fact that those simple answers are childish and wrong. The universe, life, politics, morality are indeed complex regardless of the fact that some choose to find some comfort, perhaps pseudo-happiness, in pretending otherwise.

D.
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"Do we after all seek rest, peace, and pleasure in our inquiries? No, only truth--even if it be the most abhorrent and ugly. Still one last question: if we had believed from childhood that all salvation issued from someone other than Jesus--say from Mohammed--is it not certain that we should have experienced the same blessings?...Faith does not offer the least support for a proof of objective truth. Here the ways of men part: If you wish to strive for peace of soul and pleasure, then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire..."
--Nietzsche, from a letter to his sister (Bonn, 1865)

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:19 am
by Dardedar
DAR
Hey, maybe Galt and the republicans (I am an independent BTW, right down the middle) ought to run their "happiness" poll again after the election?

Oh, and this is good. They have their slogan picked out:

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GOP's New Slogan Already Being Used To Market Anti-Depressant

Leave it to the tone deaf GOP to find a way of attaching themselves to this election cycle's "change" mandate that simultaneously reinforces the fact that their failed policies have messed up the world to such an inhuman extent that many Americans now live their daily lives in a state of free-floating panic and paralyzing anxiety.

In today's New York Times' Caucus blog, Carl Hulse reports that House Republicans have got themselves a brand-new slogan:
It looks like Republicans will counter the Democratic push for change from the years of the Bush administration with their own pledge to deliver, drum roll please, "the change you deserve."
What the GOP doesn't seem to realize, because they are idiots, is that "the change you deserve" is the registered advertising slogan of Effexor XR, a drug that many of you might have started taking as a result of all the...you know -- terrorism. (Hat tip to Bluestem for catching this gem.)

Effexor, also known as Venlafaxine, is approved for the treatment "of depression, generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and panic disorder in adults." Its common side effects are very much in keeping with the world the House Republicans have striven to build: nausea, apathy, constipation, fatigue, vertigo, sexual dysfunction, sweating, memory loss, and - and I swear I am not making this up - "electric shock-like sensations also called 'brain zaps.'"

Its less common side effects are equally awesome in their appropriateness.

And when the Food And Drug Administration reviewed the ad copy that included the tagline, "The change you deserve," it took issue with Wyeth Pharmaceuticals, which manufactures Effexor, saying that the company made "unsubstantiated superiority claims." Sounds like the GOP have picked an ironically accurate tagline for their efforts!

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:42 pm
by Doug
DOUG

"Reality: You have options."

Accurate too. The Bush administration famously had the view that they make up their own reality, as one of their flunkies told a new guy when he showed up at the White House.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:15 pm
by tmiller51
"Gross National Happiness" ends with a list of policy suggestions: Government should aim for economic opportunity, not income equality; it should not penalize marriage with tax policies; and it should resist excessive security measures (think of the screening process at airports), which inhibit freedom and increase unhappiness.
If they are going to equate marriage with happiness, I think it's odd that their list of suggestions doesn't also include a recommendation for governments to end bans on gay marriage.

Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:36 am
by Doug
tmiller51 wrote:If they are going to equate marriage with happiness, I think it's odd that their list of suggestions doesn't also include a recommendation for governments to end bans on gay marriage.
DOUG
Yes, especially since so many of the top GOP movers and shakers have been caught in gay liasons.

Let your people be free to have gay sex, Galt! Why do you keep your leaders in the closet?