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Solar Cells Change Electricity Distribution
By Dave Freeman and Jim Harding
The Seattle Post Intelligencer

Thursday 10 August 2006

In separate announcements over the past few months, researchers at the University of Johannesburg and at Nanosolar, a private company in Palo Alto, have announced major breakthroughs in reducing the cost of solar electric cells. While trade journals are abuzz with the news, analysis of the potential implications has been sparse.

We approach this news as current and former public electric utility executives, sympathetic with consumer and environmental concerns. South Africa and California technologies rely on the same alloy - called CIGS (for copper-indium-gallium-selenide) - deposited in an extremely thin layer on a flexible surface. Both companies claim that the technology reduces solar cell production costs by a factor of 4-5. That would bring the cost to or below that of delivered electricity in a large fraction of the world.

The California team is backed by a powerful team of private investors, including Google's two founders and the insurance giant Swiss Re, among others. It has announced plans to build a $100 million production facility in the San Francisco Bay area that is slated to be operational at 215 megawatts next year, and soon thereafter capable of producing 430 megawatts of cells annually.

What makes this particular news stand out? Cost, scale and financial strength. The cost of the facility is about one-tenth that of recently completed silicon cell facilities.

Second, Nanosolar is scaling up rapidly from pilot production to 430 megawatts, using a technology it equates to printing newspapers. That implies both technical success and development of a highly automated production process that captures important economies of scale. No one builds that sort of industrial production facility in the Bay Area - with expensive labor, real estate and electricity costs - without confidence.

Similar facilities can be built elsewhere. Half a dozen competitors also are working along the same lines, led by private firms Miasole and Daystar, in Sunnyvale, Calif., and New York.

But this is really not about who wins in the end. We all do. Thin solar films can be used in building materials, including roofing materials and glass, and built into mortgages, reducing their cost even further. Inexpensive solar electric cells are, fundamentally, a "disruptive technology," even in Seattle, with below-average electric rates and many cloudy days. Much like cellular phones have changed the way people communicate, cheap solar cells change the way we produce and distribute electric energy. The race is on.

The announcements are good news for consumers worried about high energy prices and dependence on the Middle East, utility executives worried about the long-term viability of their next investment in central station power plants, transmission, or distribution, and for all of us who worry about climate change. It is also good news for the developing world, where electricity generally is more expensive, mostly because electrification requires long-distance transmission and serves small or irregular loads. Inexpensive solar cells are an ideal solution.

Meanwhile, the prospect of this technology creates a conundrum for the electric utility industry and Wall Street. Can - or should - any utility, or investor, count on the long-term viability of a coal, nuclear or gas investment? The answer is no. In about a year, we'll see how well those technologies work. The question is whether federal energy policy can change fast enough to join what appears to be a revolution.

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Dave Freeman has been general manager of multiple utilities, including the Tennessee Valley Authority, Los Angeles Department of Water and Power and New York Power Authority. Jim Harding is an energy and environment consultant in Olympia and formerly director of power planning and forecasting at Seattle City Light. Also contributing was Roger Duncan, assistant general manager of Austin Energy in Austin, Texas.

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Federal energy policy will not change at all until the "will of the people" - free elections - change the mix of people making it. This is great news for ordinary folks. I checked out what it would take to put solar on my roof as a simple intertie system based on my annual monthly average of slightly under 300 KWHs - it was $18K, which I cannot afford any way, shape, or form. Reduce that to 1/4 - $4.5K - and I could do it.
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Electricity is just really cheap. I measured how much electricity my fridge was using the other day with a special Kwh calculator. It used 18 cents on a weekend day when we were opening the door more than normal. That's less than 65 bucks a year. Cheap.
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How cheap would it be without government subsidies (both direct subsidies and tax breaks of one sort or another) - especially in coal and nuclear? Electricity IS cheap and, of itself, it's clean. The problems with electricity are mostly based on what fuel is used to make it, and the "green" sources solve those problems.
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I agree.

My latest issue of Scientific American is all about "Energy's Future Beyond Carbon". I am looking forward to it.
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The real problem is getting the general populace to understand it. Big Oil has spent billions on propaganda linking petroleum with electricity and mobility. In 1987 I spent almost 6 weeks teaching a unit on what were then called "alternative" sources. The essay exam at the end of that six weeks was one question - What would life in America be like without petroleum? I would have given an A+ to anybody who'd answered, "it wouldn't be any different from now, just using different fuels" - not a single student got that A+. They all gave me "horse and buggy" scenarios of various deprevation levels.
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Wait until you see "Who Killed the Electric Car?" A wonderful overview of the whole mess we have gotten ourselves into.
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There was an article about "Who Killed..." in the Ark. Democrate Gazette today (Fri. Aug. 14) in the MovieStyle section entitled "Electric Car? makes interesting case, but steers clear of many questions." The author, Philip Martin, calls it an "undisguised argument rather than objective history." He notes that "one can't help but notice most of the EVIs seemed to end up in the hands of rich people who cherished the car more as a token of their greenness than as a functional vehicle." The film "curiously avoids the question of how much the cars cost. (In a recent column Car and Driver editor Csaba Csere asserted the electric cars cost GM more than $1 million apiece to produce.)" Martin opines that "most of us still buy our cars for reasons that have little to do with practicality. Cars and trucks are fashion items, and are marketed like athletic shoes." He notes that there is really no mystery about who killed the EVI - GM did. The question is really "whether the vehicle got a fair trial in the marketplace."
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Brazil's Alcohol Cars Hit 2 Million Mark
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Friday 18 August 2006

Brazil's new generation of cars and trucks adapted to run on alcohol has just hit the two-million mark, motor industry figures show.

"Flex-fuel" vehicles, which run on any combination of ethanol and petrol, now make up 77% of the Brazilian market.

Brazil has pioneered the use of ethanol derived from sugar-cane as motor fuel.

Ethanol-driven cars have been on sale there for 25 years, but they have been enjoying a revival since flex-fuel models first appeared in March 2003.

Just 48,200 flex-fuel cars were sold in Brazil in 2003, but the total had reached 1.2 million by the end of last year and had since topped two million, the Brazilian motor manufacturers' association Anfavea said.

Return of Ethanol

Brazil began its Pro-Alcohol programme more than 20 years ago to promote the use of ethanol as an alternative fuel for cars.

At the time, Brazil had a military government, which wanted to reduce the country's dependence on imported Middle Eastern petroleum after the 1970s oil shocks.

The idea fell out of favour in the 1990s after sugar prices rose and the price of oil fell, while Brazil's state oil company Petrobras discovered new offshore oilfields which reduced the need for imports.

But in 2003, a new generation of cars capable of running on alcohol entered production, thanks to a combination of new technology and tax breaks.

"Flex-fuel" cars attract a purchase tax of 14%, while buyers of their exclusively petrol-powered counterparts are charged 16%.

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Everybody in the world, with the possible exception of China (I say possible because their cars are required to be twice as efficient as ours, but the fact they are moving to petol-powered cars at all is a problem considering their population), except the "official" U.S. knows we have a problem. EVs are part of the solution. So are flex-fuel cars. And mass transit, including trains, short and long haul, freight and passenger. There is no more one true answer to the energy/environment/global warming/economy problem than there is one true way in religion (or lack thereof). The combinations that make up the energy answer also make up the economy answer - a long term win-win that only the greed of short-term megabucks hides from the Administration.
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Right, Barbara. Only the market can tell us the most efficient sources of energy. Government interference, from subsidies for food-based ethanol to wars for oil, will only make the transition harder. I predict that electric vehicles and cellulosic ethanol with be a big part of the solution. Hey, why don't we try to get Professor Gaddy to speak at one of our meetings, to give us a progress report? http://www.brienergy.com/pages/about01.html
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Hogeye wrote:Right, Barbara. Only the market can tell us the most efficient sources of energy.
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Can you give an example of where that has happened in the past? Cars were sold in the U.S. for decades, but their fuel efficiency had to be forced to improve by the use of government mandates.

When did the market produce the most efficient sources of energy? And if it does this, why are our cars so inefficient?
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The market is interested in making money and doesn't give a flip about saving energy, polluting the planet, providing the cleanest form of transportation or killing people in the process (unless they get caught). Many if not most of the things we buy have built in obsolesence and redundancy and packaging claptrap added because the marketing division spent billions teaching people what they need to have in order to keep up with the monkey next door. Market worship is a religion to some and is usually defended with the same vigor, irrationality, double think, compartmentalization and fervent faith as all of the standard "spiritual" types.
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I'll never know why Hogeye thinks I join him in his market worship. I said the answer to the environmental/global warming problem is also the answer to the economic problem - I don't see any of it actually happening without significant governmental input, from tightening efficiency regs, to insuring startup fees, to shifting subsidies and/or tax breaks from the current, polluting, industries to the greenies - and whatever else is needed to shift the massive market forces toward the desired goal. Make no mistake, it takes governmental forces to shift market forces towards anything except the tyranny of the wealthly 1% ruling the empoverished 99%.
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The word "efficiency" is being used in different senses, obfuscating the discussion.

Market efficiency has to do with determining and balancing the production costs of things and people's subjective desires for things. It is often evaluated in terms of concepts like Pareto optimality.

Fuel efficiency has to do with the amount of fuel (in volume or density) relative to the amount of energy produced or lost.

Social efficiency (for lack of a better term) has to do with the theological notion of the common good. This is a vague notion of what is good for humanity, usually imposed by people who think they know the "true" interpretation on those not wise enough to discern it.

The first two are "value free," while the third is prescriptive. The first two assume some given system or set of constraints; market efficiency assumes a system of property conventions and actors, and fuel efficiency assumes the laws of physics and a set of fuel-consuming machines.

So in this discussion ... we are all correct, using our respective definitions. I used the market def, Doug used the fuel def, and Darrel used the social def.

My point was that, given any set of property conventions and individual preferences, that the market is the best way to determine the relative costs and desires of people. E.g. To the extent that the USEmpire interferes with the energy market by making gas artificially cheap through wars, price-fixing, or whatever, it undermines efficiency in terms of Pareto optimality and even in finding the actual cost of gas. (This latter because some of the cost is externalized to US taxpayers and dead/occupied foreigners.)

Doug's question (Can you give an example of where that [efficiency] has happened in the past?) is trivial for economic efficiency: in all markets with little or no government intervention, to the extent that there is no intervention. But Doug is really making a point about fuel efficiency.

Meanwhle, Darrel is saying that market efficiency does not fit with his conception of the common good, and that many people are irrational wrt his conception of the common good.

Darrel and Barbara write of "market worship." I request a definition. On first blush, it sounds like a strawman of some sort. If you mean a belief that a free market always promotes the common good, it is definitely a strawman. Neither I, nor anyone I know, thinks that. Hell, I don't even think that "the common good" is a coherent concept. I'd call it an anticoncept.
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Hogeye, if you don't think the "free" market always promotes the common good (or at least better conditions for a majority of those involved), you sure give a good imitation of it. (And the definition of fuel efficiency depends on who you talk to. To a conservationist like myself, fuel efficiency is the ability to move mass using a relatively low amount of fuel. To a hotrodder, fuel efficiency, and auto efficiency, is determined by how quickly a vehicle can reach maximum speed.)

As to "common good" - that is a mixed bag. It's easy to define in generalities, but requires looking at things wholistically to determine specifics. Clean air is for the common good. The problem comes in defining clean air. At what point has so much crud been put into the air that we no longer call it clean. When it only effects asthmatics? When it causes minor respiratory problems? When it kills a few people with respiratory problems? When it causes respiratory problems and kills those who succumb? When you can see it and smell it? (CO is a deadly colorless, odorless gas.)

Practically everything coming under the heading of common good is going to have those kinds of definition problems. The Market forces artificial choices between jobs and long-term health without some kind of offsetting force, and the only force strong enough to control Market is government. (Which doesn't mean it always does its job, at the moment it most certainly is NOT.)
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Hogeye wrote:Doug's question (Can you give an example of where that [efficiency] has happened in the past?) is trivial for economic efficiency: in all markets with little or no government intervention, to the extent that there is no intervention. But Doug is really making a point about fuel efficiency.
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Yes, but you indicated that "Only the market can tell us the most efficient sources of energy."

Show where the market has done that.
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The Market is unwilling to tell us what the most efficient source of energy is, only the one that makes the megacorporation more mega (wealthier). Efficient to them is defined as moving the most money into their hands in the shortest amount of time. That most assuredly does not include R&D for new/replacement sources, much less the capital expenditures required to change over/phase in sources that are more efficient or at least less damaging - even if those changes would bring them more money in the long run. Only if the rules under which they operate (accounting rules as well as legal restrictions and tax breaks/subsidies) force them to consider the future will they ever do so.
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Yes, but you indicated that "Only the market can tell us the most efficient sources of energy." Show where the market has done that.
Your question is answered by the a priori logic of markets, yet you request a history lesson. So, making sure we are on the same page, I am speaking about market efficiency. If prices are unhindered by coercion, then people will tend to buy what's cheapest, that price reflecting the various costs of production (and people's subjective preferences). Put simply: What people choose to buy in a free market is by definition the most efficient. For the details, read this PDF: The Austrian Theory of Efficiency and the Role of Government or an economics textbook.

Getting into history, we see that whale oil and seed oils (e.g. rapeseed) were cheapest (and, to the extent markets were free, most efficient) through the early 1800s. In the 1840s or so, two factors made whale oil more expensive - an increased demand for lighting oils and overharvesting of whales. Camphine became the cheapest and most popular liquid fuel by the 1850s. One source gives these prices in 1850 (per gallon):

• Camphene or "burning fluid" -- 50 cents (alcohol / turpentine / camphor oil, bright, sweet smelling)
• whale oil -- $1.30 to $2.50
• lard oil -- 90 cents (low quality, smelly)
• coal oil Ð 50 cents (sooty, smelly, low quality) (the original "kerosene")
• kerosene Ð 60 cents (introduced in early 1860s)
(from here)

In the 1870s or so new oil fields were being discovered in e.g. Pennsylvania and Canada. In the late 1800's kerosine became the most efficient (cheapest). Later, as automobiles were developed, ethanol and gasoline were cheapest, but about here we get government intervention which muddies things up. In the US, ethanol was taxed and sometimes prohibited (with the temperence movement and all), so petrol became standard. In Europe around the turn of the 19th century, ethanol was still cheaper. Probably ethanol was more efficient (would have been cheaper) were it not for govt intervention in the US. (Rockefeller of Standard Oil funded the temperence movement BTW). Even in the 1920s and 30s, Henry Ford and others saw (cellulosic) ethanol as the future of auto fuel:
When Henry Ford told a New York Times reporter that ethyl alcohol was "the fuel of the future" in 1925, he was expressing an opinion that was widely shared in the automotive industry. "The fuel of the future is going to come from fruit like that sumach out by the road, or from apples, weeds, sawdust -- almost anything," he said. "There is fuel in every bit of vegetable matter that can be fermented. There's enough alcohol in one year's yield of an acre of potatoes to drive the machinery necessary to cultivate the fields for a hundred years." - Henry Ford, Charles Kettering and the "Fuel of the Future"
Also see "The History of Lighting."
Barbara wrote:The Market is unwilling to tell us what the most efficient source of energy is, only the one that makes the megacorporation more mega (wealthier).
Here what you call "the market" is really the mixed economy, with massive intervention by the State. In a truly free market, most megacorporations would not exist. Market anarchists like me see megacorporations as the result of government privilege, such as barriers to entry, patent monopolies, regulations (which generally favor big existing politically-favored firms), tariffs, licensure, limited liability, and so on. Some of your comments (e.g. "Only if the rules under which they operate (accounting rules as well as legal restrictions and tax breaks/subsidies) force them to consider the future will they ever do so.") make me think that we pretty much agree about megacorporations - except in terminology. E.g. What you call "the market" I would call "a mixed economy - a combination of socialism, fascism, and markets." What I call "the market" you would call maybe "an implementation of property rights which adequately considers the future."
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Hogeye wrote:Your question is answered by the a priori logic of markets, yet you request a history lesson.
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It is not a priori that markets keep prices down, and this is shown by the counterexamples in our own marketplaces.
Hogeye wrote: So, making sure we are on the same page, I am speaking about market efficiency. If prices are unhindered by coercion, then people will tend to buy what's cheapest, that price reflecting the various costs of production (and people's subjective preferences). Put simply: What people choose to buy in a free market is by definition the most efficient.
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OK, in the Hogeye dictionary "efficient" means "what someone bought." So to say that the marketplace determines the most efficient sources of energy, as he claimed, is simply to say that the marketplace determines what people buy.

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