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Obama Admits Republicans the Party of ideas

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Dar, Doug, Sav...

Okay, the 3 smartest, poorest and most self righteous people in Fayetteville, Obama has more sense than all of you put together...big surprise... Read Ayn Rand...you will benefit.... Debate Hillwilllose- she'll roast you like a marshmellow.


Obama told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board Monday that "Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it," Obama said.
"I think it's fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10 to 15 years in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom," Obama told the newspaper.
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Edwards, Clinton Critical of Obama's Praise for GOP And Reagan

By NEDRA PICKLER
Associated Press Writer
Posted: Jan. 18 7:50 p.m.

RENO, NEV. — John Edwards and Hillary Rodham Clinton criticized Barack Obama's praise of the Republican Party and Ronald Reagan - an anathema for many Democrats, particularly union members considered crucial to winning Nevada's Democratic caucuses Saturday.
Obama responded by suggesting Clinton would be a "president whose plans change with the politics of the moment" as part of one of his most direct critiques of the New York senator yet.
The intensity reflects what polls suggest could be a tight contest Saturday as Nevada plays its most prominent role ever in a presidential nominating campaign. Nevada was granted a coveted spot right after Iowa and New Hampshire in an attempt to bring more racial and geographic diversity into the selection.
The novelty means there isn't a reliable way to determine who is likely to turn out at caucuses across the state. In addition, nine caucuses are to be held in casinos for the first time to allow shift workers to participate on a busy holiday weekend - making the result even more unpredictable.
Obama got a boost when he won the endorsement of the Culinary Workers Union that represents 60,000 housekeepers, bartenders, waiters and other employees on the Las Vegas Strip. Then a judge dismissed an attempt to eliminate the casino caucus sites. But Clinton still holds an edge in most polls.
Edwards, his chances for the presidency diminished by losses to Obama in Iowa and Clinton in New Hampshire, did not run television ads in the state and did not plan to stay in Nevada to wait for results. His schedule Friday had him leaving to campaign in Oklahoma, Missouri and Georgia, among the more than 20 states that vote on Super Tuesday, February 5.
Edwards questioned Obama's commitment to labor in his final appeal to Nevada voters - a rally with about 100 of his precinct captains in Las Vegas.
"Ronald Reagan, the man who busted unions, the man who did everything in his power to destroy the organized labor movement, the man who created a tax structure that favored the richest Americans against middle class and working families, ... we know that Ronald Reagan is not an example of change for a presidential candidate running in the Democratic Party," Edwards said.
Reagan also "was destructive to the environment by removing a lot of the regulation that existed," Edwards added in a later telephone interview with The Associated Press. "I would never use Ronald Reagan as an example of change."
Obama told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board Monday that "Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it," Obama said.
"I think it's fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10 to 15 years in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom," Obama told the newspaper.
On Friday in Las Vegas, Clinton, responded, "That's not the way I remember the last ten to fifteen years." She said she didn't consider it a better idea to privatize Social Security, eliminate the minimum wage, undercut health benefits, shut down the government or drive the country into debt. "I think we know what needs to be done in America. And I think we're ready to do it. I'm ready to lead on day one."
Obama questioned her claim while campaigning at the University of Nevada Reno. "Sen. Clinton has said she is ready to lead from day one, but it's important on day one to get it right, whether you're talking about war or you're talking about economic proposals."
Obama said Clinton recently joined his call for a tax rebate. When she initially announced her economic stimulus plan last week, she said she would consider a tax rebate in the future if the economy worsened.
"This is a larger point that has to be made," he said. "It is easy to be for policies that help working families when it's popular on the campaign trail, but the American people don't want a president whose plans change with the politics of the moment."
Obama spokesman Bill Burton pointed out that a press release on Clinton's campaign Web site listed Reagan among her favorite presidents, along with her husband and eight others. "It's hard to take Hillary Clintons latest attack seriously when shes the one who supported George Bushs war in Iraq, the most damaging Republican idea of our generation," Burton said.
The Clinton campaign said there were reports of voter intimidation and confusion among Culinary Union members who support Clinton. Some union members thought the union's endorsement of Obama meant they wouldn't be allowed to caucus for Clinton, while others feared retaliation if they chose to caucus for Clinton, Clinton aides said.
"I'm afraid some people may feel that they can't come or they shouldn't come or can't support the candidate of their choice." Clinton herself said during a campaign appearance in Elko. "We know there are some unions in the south who are telling people who to caucus for and if they're not going to caucus for who they choose, don't come at all. I don't think that's right."
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Associated Press writers Kathleen Hennessey and Beth Fouhy in Las Vegas, and Evan Berland in South Carolina contributed to this report.
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Obama told the Reno Gazette-Journal editorial board Monday that "Reagan changed the trajectory of America...
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Hey Galt, don't be so gullible. Politicians say a lot of things during elections. Don't believe all of it. In fact, don't believe most of it.
Debate Hillwilllose- she'll roast you like a marshmellow.
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Oh how you tease. This is the person who thinks it intelligent to start a new thread with the comment "ha ha" and a link. When it comes time to step up and carry through all of you are shooting blanks. It's like you guys are packing intellectual squirt guns in a real gun fight.

Hey, do you think Hillwilllose will change her name to Hilldonewon after Hillary wins?

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John Galt wrote:Obama Admits Republicans the Party of ideas
Galt, you neglected -- no doubt purposely -- to indicate the past tense in your topic. Try reading the comments again. Repugs now have turned this country into a mere shell of its formerly respectable self.
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Savonarola wrote:
John Galt wrote:Obama Admits Republicans the Party of ideas
Galt, you neglected -- no doubt purposely -- to indicate the past tense in your topic.
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Good catch. Obama says:

"...the Republicans were the party of ideas..."

and Galt turns this into:

"Obama Admits Republicans the Party of ideas..."

When you are looking for dishonest spin in a post by Galt you have to start right at the very top.

And note, Obama didn't say they were a party of good ideas.

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John Galt wrote: Edwards said:
"Ronald Reagan, the man who busted unions, the man who did everything in his power to destroy the organized labor movement, the man who created a tax structure that favored the richest Americans against middle class and working families, ... we know that Ronald Reagan is not an example of change for a presidential candidate running in the Democratic Party," Edwards said.

Clinton responded, "That's not the way I remember the last ten to fifteen years." She said she didn't consider it a better idea to privatize Social Security, eliminate the minimum wage, undercut health benefits, shut down the government or drive the country into debt..."
Hey Galt, why do you believe the mere assertions of Obama but not the claims by Edwards and Clinton when they are supported by evidence?

Answer: You are a Republican. You aren't interested in evidence. You just believe things because they sound good.
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