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Theocracy: Closer than you think. Secular Nation? Notta

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:13 am
by LaWood
What part of ‘secular nation’ do we not understand?

BY CHARLES C. HAYNES First Amendment Center

"Consider the findings of “ State of the First Amendment 2007, ” a national survey released this week by the First Amendment Center. Significant numbers of Americans express support for government sponsorship of the majority religion, especially in public schools:

-58 percent want teacher-led prayers in schools.
-43 percent endorse school holiday programs that are entirely Christian and devotional.
-50 percent would allow public school teachers to teach the Bible as a “ factual text” in history classes.

According to the First Amendment poll, nearly two-thirds of Americans (65 percent ) agree that our nation’s founders intended the United States to be a Christian nation.

Even more striking, 55 percent believe that the U. S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation.

Of course, people define “ Christian nation” in various ways — ranging from a nation that reflects Christian virtues to a nation where the government promotes the Christian faith. But under any definition, the Constitution in no way establishes or creates a Christian nation.

http://www.nwanews.com/nwat/Editorial/57350/

Re: Theocracy: Closer than you think. Secular Nation? Notta

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:55 pm
by Doug
LaWood wrote:What part of ‘secular nation’ do we not understand?

BY CHARLES C. HAYNES First Amendment Center

"Consider the findings of “ State of the First Amendment 2007, ” a national survey released this week by the First Amendment Center. Significant numbers of Americans express support for government sponsorship of the majority religion, especially in public schools:

-58 percent want teacher-led prayers in schools.
-43 percent endorse school holiday programs that are entirely Christian and devotional.
-50 percent would allow public school teachers to teach the Bible as a “ factual text” in history classes.

According to the First Amendment poll, nearly two-thirds of Americans (65 percent ) agree that our nation’s founders intended the United States to be a Christian nation.

Even more striking, 55 percent believe that the U. S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation.

Of course, people define “ Christian nation” in various ways — ranging from a nation that reflects Christian virtues to a nation where the government promotes the Christian faith. But under any definition, the Constitution in no way establishes or creates a Christian nation.

http://www.nwanews.com/nwat/Editorial/57350/
DOUG
We have our work cut out for us.

We need to roll up our sleeves and get working...

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:55 am
by Barbara Fitzpatrick
Who did this guy survey? Nimrods who can't logic from a to b? Sure they want "teacher-led prayers in schools" - until they find out the teacher is RC and the prayers are the rosary or the teacher is Muslim and they are bowing to Mecca several times a day. And, unless you restrict your survey to large fundie populations, you won't get 50% believing the bible is a "factual" text. Might best check out the "First Amendment Center" - sounds awfully fundie version of the Heritage Foundation to me.