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60 Minutes: Soldiers Speak Out Against Iraq War

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:12 pm
by Doug
(CBS) Americans in the military have been asked to make extraordinary sacrifices in recent years, particularly in Iraq, where the casualties are mounting, the tours are being extended, and some of them have had enough.

Correspondent Lara Logan heard dissension in the ranks from a large group of service members who are fed up and have decided to go public. They’re not going AWOL, they're not disobeying orders or even refusing to fight in Iraq. But they are doing something unthinkable to many in uniform: bypassing the chain of command to denounce a war they’re in the middle of fighting.


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"As a patriotic citizen who served two combat tours in Iraq, I just feel like this war, it's simply just not working out anymore, and soldiers are dying there everyday," says Specialist Kevin Torres.

Torres didn’t always feel that way—he enlisted in the Army right out of high school, after 9/11. He has twice served in Iraq, patrolling the mainly Kurdish north of the country, and carrying out combat patrols and goodwill missions.

"I joined because I just wanted to make a difference. I wanted to be a part of our generation's war," Torres says.

"You've been on two deployments and you didn't always feel this way. Was there a point at which, you know, something you experienced that made you think," Logan asks.

"Yeah. In January, we were doing routine presence patrol through the city of Hawija, and one of our trucks was hit by a roadside bomb, an IED, and it killed four of the soldiers out of the five that were in the truck. And during the recovery of the fallen soldiers all the debris outside of the truck. And we just had the truck was loaded with school supplies and soccer balls and crayons and notebooks and coloring books. We just wanna help. And it was just a really eye-opening and frustrating experience. Because we're still getting killed out there," he says.

It’s a sentiment echoed by all of the service members who are part of this protest.

60 Minutes gathered some of them in Washington, but they had to be off base, out of uniform and off duty to speak to Logan on camera.

They’ve all sent a petition, called “Appeal For Redress,” to their individual members of Congress, letting them know that “Staying in Iraq will not work” and it’s “time for U.S. troops to come home.”

"It's not about speaking out against the military or speaking out against the war. It's just, we're here four years down the line and there's not an end to it," Sgt. Evans, one of the dissenters, tells Logan.

"What are we trying to accomplish over there? I mean, what is what are we trying to do in Iraq?" another soldier, Sgt. Ronn Cantu asks.

What does he think?

"I don't even know anymore," he tells Logan.

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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:48 pm
by Barbara Fitzpatrick
They're going to get a whole lot of flack from the "with us or against us" crowd. I think more highly of their patriotism - though not necessarily their sanity - to speak out (doubly not sure of their sanity for going back - but I know they aren't going back for this administration, they are going back to support their buddies on the line).

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:13 pm
by Dardedar
DAR
People may forget how much Gore spoke out against the Iraq war and the smears and ridicule he received for doing so. Now he is vindicated. Not unlike the global warming situation.

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Gore's Other Global Warning: Iraq War
By Robert Parry
Consortium News

Sunday 25 February 2007

As Al Gore steps into the national spotlight because of the Academy Awards and his global-warming documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," it's worth remembering that in fall 2002 Gore sought to warn the American people about another "inconvenient truth," the folly of invading Iraq.

The former Vice President did so at a time when it was considered madness or almost treason to object to George W. Bush's war plans. But Gore was one of a small number of national political figures who took that risk and paid a price, subjected to widespread ridicule and disdain from the Washington news media.

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Still, the underlying theme running through the attacks against Gore and other critics of Bush's "preemptive war" policy was that a thorough debate would not be tolerated. Rather than confront arguments on their merits, Bush's supporters simply drummed Gore and fellow skeptics out of Washington's respectable political society.

More than four years later, Gore's Iraq War warnings sound both prescient and obvious. What might be more remarkable is how few major political figures dared to speak out, as Gore did, when their cautionary advice might have saved many thousands of lives and spared the United States possibly the worst national security disaster in its history.
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DAR
Nah, there's no difference between Demo's and Republicans.