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Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:38 pm
by Dardedar
"Why can't the Democrats get props for what they've achieved? Oh, I know... I know. Obama's black. He's used to being denied credit. And there's nothing wrong with being hard on him. He's the president and it's our job to keep him honest.
But when it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you've got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy. Of course the Democrats are disappointing. That's what makes them Democrats. If they were any more frustrating they'd be your relatives.
But in this country they are all that stands between you and darkest night. You know why their symbol is the letter "D"? Because it's a grade that means good enough, but just barely.
You know why the Republican symbol is "R"? Because it's the noise a pirate makes when he robs you and feeds you to a shark."
--Bill Maher
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:23 pm
by L.Wood
"D"
Say friggin days in the Republic, most of it ruined by the revival of Religion in the 1970s which the super rich saw as a grand opportunity to get irrational
stuff passed in their favor.
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Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:28 pm
by Doug
You might have heard the dirge of depressing education statistics: The United States has dropped from first to 18th place in high school graduation rates among developed nations. First to 14th in college graduation rates. First to 35th in math. First to 29th in science. First to 32nd in reading. Oh and 30 percent of our kids -- much higher among poor and minority children -- aren't graduating from high school during a time when a college degree is increasingly required to earn a living above the poverty line. And we spend more per student than any of the countries that are beating us.
Many of our schools are literally and figuratively crumbling. They aren't providing American children with the quality education that is the fundamental right of every citizen.
See here.
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:42 pm
by Dardedar
Doug wrote: "You might have heard the dirge of depressing education statistics: The United States has dropped from first to 18th place in [etc.]" --quoting John Legend at Huff Po
DAR
Hmmmm, I read a bunch of the comments for this article. John Legend, a performing artist, doesn't provide any reference or evidence that the US was "number one" in all of these categories and I am rather skeptical.
And now, a message from Christine O'Donnell (who is not a witch):
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Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:39 pm
by Dardedar
Sen. Jim DeMint's (Rwing insane-S.C.) has said that openly gay individuals and unmarried pregnant women should be barred from teaching in public schools. To this a commenter on Huff Po noted:
"So if an unmarried teacher is raped and gets pregnant. She can't get an abortion because it's against the law. She's fired because it's not acceptable for her to teach. She can't get unemployment benefits because they are unconstitutional. She can't get health care for her baby because health care reform will be repealed and she's on her own. Tea Party World."
Link
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm
by Dardedar
Lincoln, on the corporate threat to America:
"It has indeed been a trying hour for the Republic; but I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war."
U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
Ref: The Lincoln Encyclopedia, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)
"These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert to fleece the people, and now that they have got into a quarrel with themselves, we are called upon to appropriate the people's money to settle the quarrel."
Abraham Lincoln
speech to Illinois legislature, Jan. 1837.
See Vol. 1, p. 24 of Lincoln's Complete Works,
ed. by Nicolay and Hay, 1905)
Authentic quotes
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:30 am
by Dardedar
The leadership of the Republican Party and their pundits (i.e. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, etc.) have explicitly and/or implicitly expressed their regard for their base in a multitude of ways. If you consider for a moment the strategies they've used to appeal to their base, or to "energize" their base, or to draw a reaction from their base, or even how they portray their base in their political ads, it becomes apparent that they think that their base is:
- racist
- uneducated and anti-education
- uninformed
- homophobic
- xenophobic
- gullible
- self-righteous religious hypocrites
- and last but not least, bitter, clinging ... hicks!
Yet, when one considers that their base nonetheless continues to blindly support and defend them, in spite of these perceptions, it also becomes apparent that the leadership and the pundits know their base better than their base knows themselves.
--Huff Po
comment thread
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:21 pm
by Dardedar
For those who say Beck speech doesn't incite violence...
"The clock is ticking. . . . The war is just beginning. . . . Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government. . . . You have to be prepared to take rocks to the head. . . . The other side is attacking. . . . There is a coup going on. . . . Grab a torch! . . . Drive a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers. . . . They are taking you to a place to be slaughtered. . . . They are putting a gun to America's head. . . . Hold these people responsible." ~ Glenn Beck
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:24 am
by Dardedar
"Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.”
--often
incorrectly attributed to John Maynard Keynes
I don't care who said it.
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:35 am
by Dardedar
"In the twentieth century, psychopathy was popularized as a system of ethics by Ayn Rand. Her ethics (egoism, which existed actually for centuries before) amounts to an ethics that is motivated by personal consequences only. That is, you do the right thing only because doing the wrong thing can result in retaliation against you."
The creation of a "Corporate Personhood" that is unburdened by the conscience with which we all live has sparked a brushfire of immoral and destructive behavior that is surpassed only by the most oppressive tyrants of our world. A political culture is then encouraged to create (or remove) policy to remove constraints on psychopathic behavior."
The Unburdened Mind, Written by Christopher S. Putnam on 20 January 2008.
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:15 am
by Dardedar
In Climate Denial, Again
"Former Vice President Dick Cheney has to be smiling. With one exception, none of the Republicans running for the Senate — including the 20 or so with a serious chance of winning — accept the scientific consensus that humans are largely responsible for global warming.
The candidates are not simply rejecting solutions, like putting a price on carbon, though these, too, are demonized. They are re-running the strategy of denial perfected by Mr. Cheney a decade ago, repudiating years of peer-reviewed findings about global warming and creating an alternative reality in which climate change is a hoax or conspiracy....
Nowadays, it is almost impossible to recall that in 2000, George W. Bush promised to cap carbon dioxide, encouraging some to believe that he would break through the partisan divide on global warming. Until the end of the 1990s, Republicans could be counted on to join bipartisan solutions to environmental problems. Now they’ve disappeared in a fog of disinformation, an entire political party parroting the Cheney line."
NYT's
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:05 pm
by Dardedar
In a debate with Democratic opponent Chris Coons at Widener University Law School in Delaware, O’Donnell accused Coons of “constitutional ignorance,” saying “perhaps they didn’t teach you Constitutional law at Yale Divinity School.”
Excerpt:
Coons said that creationism, which he considers “a religious doctrine,” should not be taught in public schools due to the Constitution’s First Amendment. He argued that it explicitly enumerates the separation of church and state.
“The First Amendment does?” O’Donnell asked. “Let me just clarify: You’re telling me that the separation of church and state is found in the First Amendment?”
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,” Coons responded, reciting from memory the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
“That’s in the First Amendment…?” O’Donnell responded.
ThinkProgress
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:22 am
by Dardedar
What a Teabagger World
I see bags of Tetley, Red Rose too
Dangling from pissed folks, shouting at you
And I think to myself, what a teabagger world.
Tri-corner hats of blue, and faces white
Glocks strapped to ankles, folks wound up tight
And I think to myself, what a teabagger world.
The spelling of the signs, they hoist up in the sky
Say "Get A Brain MORANS!" to people passing by
I see folks shaking fists, saying "Government we hate!"
They're really saying, "We lost in '08."
"Terror babies" scheme! Brown people plot!
Obama's a Muslim! And that's all they got.
And I think to myself, what a teabagger world
Yes I think to myself, what a teabagger world.
Ohhhhh...Tyranny!
Bill from Maine
~Daily Kos
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:25 am
by Betsy
One of the 'founders' of the Tea Party has woken up:
"Tea Party my ass. This was...the Republican Party stealing the anger of a population that was fed up with the [GOP]'s own theft of their tax money at gunpoint...and fraudulently redirecting it back toward electing the very people who stole all the ****ing money!"
A financial blogger and ex-CEO credited with being one of the original "founders" of the Tea Party has come out against the movement, saying it has been hijacked by the very people it was protesting and is now obsessed with "guns, gays and God."
check it out
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:23 pm
by Dardedar
Republican psychology
The abhorrent behavior of Republicans is beyond reason until one looks at the fundamental meaning of sociopathy, authoritarian rule and cult mentality.
There are two main groups of Repubs.
1. Those in power - The true form of sociopathy where consolidation of power and control is a driving force. These people willingly subvert others in order to Read More... satiate their fears of inadequacy by perpetuating control over others and by consolidating wealth at the expense of others. This is an ego based phenomena driven by primal instinct that trumps any intellect or reason.
2. Those who follow - These are the cult followers who willingly bow to authoritarian rule. Once again, their needs are fear and ego based but is different in that they need to be told what to do and how to think. Through willful ignorance and cognitive dissonance, they create a walled off false reality by denying the existence of other concepts and by dehumanizing those who think differently. They are very intolerant of any divergence from what they consider to be the normal which is usually conceptualized in terms of their religion, race, history, nationality, culture, language, etc. They tend to be very superstitious and lend credence to folktales or interpretations of history that fit their preexisting definitions of reality. They think in extremely stereotyped ways about minorities, women, homosexuals, etc. and thus very dualistic. The world is conceived in terms of absolute right (their way) Vs. absolute wrong (the "other" way), there is no [middle ground].
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:49 pm
by Dardedar
"A winner-takes-all voting system where both main parties are sustained by corporate financing, the congressional districts are openly gerrymandered and 40% of the upper chamber can block anything, is never going to be a benign vehicle for radical reform. Virtually every enduring progressive development in US politics since the war has been sparked either by massive mobilisations outside of electoral politics that have forced politicians to respond, or through the courts."
BP Among Foreign Oil Companies Funding Climate-Change Denying Tea Party Candidates
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:47 am
by Dardedar
Al Franken, fills the President's "car in the ditch story" with more details:
When the President took office, not only had the car gone into a ditch, the car had flipped over and was rolling down a steep embankment. We, the American people, were in the back seat, and the Bush Administration had removed all the seat belts, so we were all flying around the interior of this car as it was rolling and flipping and careening down this steep embankment, headed to a 2,000 foot cliff. And at the bottom of that cliff were jagged rocks. And alligators.
Now, at noon on January 20th, 2009, as the car was careening toward the cliff, George W. Bush jumped out of the car.
President Obama somehow managed to dive in through the window, take the wheel and get control of the thing just inches before it went over the precipice. Then, he and Congress starting pushing this wreck back up the embankment. Now you can’t push a car up an embankment as fast as it careens down the embankment, especially if some people are trying to push against you. But we got it going in the right direction. And slowly we’ve gotten ourselves up the embankment, out of the ditch and onto the shoulder of the road.
There. That’s what happened.
LINK
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:27 am
by Dardedar
"Fox has done the greatest disservice to "news" that could possibly be done...by making "how you feel" as legitimate as facts...as it pertains to news. We have enough going on in this world, without Fox giving it's viewers subtle permission (by like behavior) to accept, dismiss, question or reassemble "facts" through personal opinion. That is inexcusable on so many levels.
You may not like what you hear on NPR and maybe that's where Fox viewers become confused. When NPR deliver news, they're not there to appease, condone, or justify your personal sensibilities, views or fears. They're there to deliver a story as the facts dictate. They may have guests on to discuss particular stories and their implications...but the facts remain intact, regardless of the guests input in the process. The facts,as they pertain to the piece, do not magically change based on the discussion. Facts are replaced ONLY WHEN newly discovered "facts" usurp the previous facts, on which the story was based. Not before and definitely not on "a feeling".
Huff Po commenter
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:46 pm
by Dardedar
"Urk. I just gave up on the presidential press conference. When Obama declared that Americans rejected Democrats in part because “We were in such a hurry to get things done that we didn’t change how things got done,” I checked out.
Nobody cares about this stuff — they care about results. Nobody really cares about earmarks; they’re just code for spending less (less on somebody else, of course, not me). Nobody cares about civility and bipartisanship, which in practice are code for Democrats giving in to Republican demands. Nobody cares about parliamentary maneuvers: we can argue about the role of health reform in the election, but I bet not one voter in 50 knows or cares that it was passed using reconciliation (as were the sacred Bush tax cuts we must, must retain).
If Obama had used fancy footwork and 2 AM sessions to pass a big public works program, and this program had brought unemployment down, Republicans would be screaming about the process — and Democrats would have comfortably held control of Congress. Remember the voter backlash against the way Medicare drug benefits were passed? Neither do I.
Oh, by the way — nobody cares about the deficit, either." --Paul Krugman
Re: Political Quotes of the Day
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:50 am
by Doug
Darrel wrote:"Urk. I just gave up on the presidential press conference. When Obama declared that Americans rejected Democrats in part because “We were in such a hurry to get things done that we didn’t change how things got done,” I checked out.
DOUG
Same here. Now Obama is also going to cave in on extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.
Because he's a Democrat. Of course.