Getting Ready to Invade Iran?

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:22 pm

Bush is talking trash about Iran now. A prelude to invasion? As with his Iraq war, the facts don't seem to matter.

http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/1236

...last Monday, President Bush repeated Negroponte’s claim in a speech that appeared to be the opening round in a new “drumbeat to war” against Iran. But the administration is perhaps getting sloppier, for the next day it appeared that not everyone was on the same page. When Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Peter Pace was asked about the claim with these words, “Do you have proof that they are, indeed, behind this, the government of Iran?”, Gen. Pace replied, “I do not, sir.” Immediately afterward, Secretary Rumsfeld also failed to endorse the accusation...

Barbara Fitzpatrick · Post by **Barbara Fitzpatrick** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:56 pm

Bush & his neocons have already decided to attack Iran - really, I'm surprised they didn't do it instead of Iraq, except with the sanctions Iraq had been under for 10 years, it should have been a cakewalk (would have been if they'd sent enough troops to maintain the peace after they got rid of Saddam's army that was doing it) - the only question now is will it be before or after the November elections.

Post by **Dardedar** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:29 pm

DAR
John Stewart played the clip on his show last night. It was great.

You can watch the clip here:

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TDS-Bush-Iran-IED.wmv

Other than sitting back and pushing buttons or dropping bombs on certain locations I still don't think it likely for Bush to attempt to attack and invade Iran. I don't think that is an option considering what he has done to the US military and how much of a bigger fight Iran would put up with it's three times the size and population.

If he does, I may be exercising my option to move back to Canada and get the hell away from these lunatics.

D.
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"A people may prefer a free government, but if, from indolence, or carelessness, or cowardice, or want of public spirit, they are unequal to the exertions necessary for preserving it; if they will not fight for it when it is directly attacked; if they can be deluded by the artifices used to cheat them out of it; if by momentary discouragement, or temporary panic, or a fit of enthusiasm for an individual, they can be induced to lay their liberties at the feet even of a great man, or trust him with powers which enable him to subvert their institutions; in all these cases they are more or less unfit for liberty: and though it may be for their good to have had it even for a short time, they are unlikely long to enjoy it."

-- John Stuart Mill, Representative Government, 1861.

Barbara Fitzpatrick · Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:09 am

John Stuart Mill is correct, but where does that leave those of us who don't fall into his category of "unfit for liberty" - who've been fighting, writing, voting, and otherwise trying to maintain liberty, but have been either outnumbered or outsnookered at the polling places?

I've thought about the move to Canada, but my family is here (that 1st grandchild in 1997 is the reason I moved back to Fayetteville, and now I have 2 more). That's one thing my momma was wrong about - she used to blame ordinary Germans for not stopping Hitler - or leaving the country, if they couldn't stop him. She didn't stop to think that the highest vote Hitler ever got was 34%, and W has legitimately gotten over 34%.

Hogeye · Post by **Hogeye** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:18 pm

Barbara wrote:John Stuart Mill is correct, but where does that leave those of us who don't fall into his category of "unfit for liberty" - who've been fighting, writing, voting, and otherwise trying to maintain liberty.

Face it - we're a small minority. There are many things you can do, most generally:

1) Build alternative institutions, i.e. non-statist arbitration, monetary systems, systems of mutual aid, and so on. Some call this "parallel structures", others simply "tending your own garden."

2) Don't feed the beast. Resist taxation, ignore unjust laws, stop voting, and so on.

3) Live "beneath the government radar" as best you can. Some even go so far as to "Gulch" it, or become a PT.

For specific things you can do, I heartily recommend Claire Wolfe's book 101 Things to Do 'Till the Revolution.

Claire Wolfe wrote:"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."