C'mon everyone - let's have a prayer circle for his poor, decrepit soul . . .
Gee, what a BUMMER.
Gee, what a BUMMER.
Jerry Falwell is dead!
C'mon everyone - let's have a prayer circle for his poor, decrepit soul . . .
C'mon everyone - let's have a prayer circle for his poor, decrepit soul . . .
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Some people have a theory that you shouldn't talk ill of the dead. I have never subscribed to that idea. Fawell was a horse's ass who devoted his life to promoting superstition and ignorance and he established a vast pseudo-learning establishment ("Liberty University") that will perpetuate his ignorance and stupidity far and wide and long into the future.
Some people have a theory that you shouldn't talk ill of the dead. I have never subscribed to that idea. Fawell was a horse's ass who devoted his life to promoting superstition and ignorance and he established a vast pseudo-learning establishment ("Liberty University") that will perpetuate his ignorance and stupidity far and wide and long into the future.
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"Falwell was found unconscious in his office" said the news.
"So what else is new?" I asked.
But it is news that he is now dead from the neck down.
"So what else is new?" I asked.
But it is news that he is now dead from the neck down.
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What kind of God would take Jerry Falwell away, and leave Larry Flint?
Gee, I had forgotten what a dickhead this guy was. A little Falwell flashback.
What kind of God would take Jerry Falwell away, and leave Larry Flint?
Gee, I had forgotten what a dickhead this guy was. A little Falwell flashback.
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I guess God didn't want ransome this time. Remember umpty years back when God was going to "call him home" if the faithful didn't cough up $5 million? (Or was that Pat?) Back then Berke Breathed ran a strip about calling home Jerry, Jimmy, Jerry, AND the Bakers (Jim and Tammy Faye) if folks would cough up $5 million - working on the 5 for the price of 1 theory. Opus the Penguin emptied his wallet. I would have, too.
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Speaking of Tammy Faye (Messner nowadays, I think), she's apparently down to like 65 lbs. and her docs have discontinued cancer treatments. She'll probably be an obituary soon, too. Yet another huge loss for society!Barbara Fitzpatrick wrote:(. . . and Tammy Faye)
Her website says that her daughter and friends are taking care of her while hubby Roe ("Fish Eggs") Messner is off "building churches." My, how mighty brown-nosing of the Almighty of him! Maybe he's simply weary and wants to off-load her to God's supposed care ASAP.You all ought to check out Tammy Faye's website: it's pathetic and yet somehow hilarious at the same time. C'mon, give credit where it's due! That is not an easy combo to pull off.
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Whoof! Leave it to Hitchen's to not pull any punches!
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Hitchens joined Anderson Cooper last night on a shortened version of "AC360" to discuss the life of Jerry Falwell.
HITCHENS: The empty life of this ugly little charlatan proves only one thing: that you can get away with the most extraordinary offenses to morality and to truth in this country if you will just get yourself called Reverend.
Who would, even at your network, have invited on such a little toad to tell us that the attacks of September the 11th were the result of our sinfulness and were God's punishment if they hadn't got some kind of clerical qualification?
People like that should be out in the street, shouting and hollering with a cardboard sign and selling pencils from a cup.
HITCHENS: The whole consideration of this — of this horrible little person is offensive to very, very many of us who have some regard for truth and for morality, and who think that ethics do not require that lies be told to children by evil old men, that we're — we're not told that people who believe like Falwell will be snatched up into heaven, where I'm glad to see he skipped the rapture, was found on the floor of his office, while the rest of us go to hell.
How dare they talk to children like this? How dare they raise money from credulous people on their huckster-like (UNINTELLIGIBLE) radio stations, and fly around in private jets, as he did, giggling and sniggering all the time at what he was getting away with?
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HITCHENS: How dare he say, for example, that the Antichrist is already present amongst us and is an adult male Jew, while all the time, fawning on the worst elements in Israel, with his other hand pumping anti-Semitic innuendoes into American politics, along with his friends Robertson and Graham?
COOPER: And, yet, there are…
HITCHENS: … encouraging — encouraging — encouraging the most extreme theocratic fanatics and maniacs on the West Bank and in Gaza not to give an inch of what he thought of as holy land to the people who already live there, undercutting and ruining every Democrat and secularist in the Jewish state in the name of God?
HITCHENS: This is — this is — he's done us an enormous, enormous disservice by this sort of demagogy.
COOPER: What do you think it says about America that — and politics in America, that he was so successful in mobilizing huge swathes of the country to come out and vote?
HITCHENS: I'm not certain at all that he did deserve this reputation. And I…
COOPER: You don't think he does?
HITCHENS: Well, I'm not certain that he was a mobilizer. He certainly hoped to be one.
Well, the fact is that the country suffers, to a considerable extent, from paying too much, by way of compliment, to anyone who can describe themselves as a person of faith. Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, Chaucerian frauds, people who are simply pickpockets, who — and frauds — who prey on the gullible and…
COOPER: Do you believe he believed what he spoke?
HITCHENS: Of course not. He woke up every morning, as I say, pinching his chubby little flanks and thinking, I have got away with it again.
COOPER: You think he was a complete fraud, really?
HITCHENS: Yes.
COOPER: You don't believe that, I mean, in his reading of the Bible, you don't think he was sincere in his — I mean, whether you agree or not with his reading of the Bible, you don't think he was sincere in what he spoke?
HITCHENS: No. I think he was a conscious charlatan and bully and fraud.
And I think, if he read the Bible at all — and I would doubt that he could actually read any long book of — at all — that he did so only in the most hucksterish, as we say, Bible-pounding way.
I'm going to repeat what I said before about the Israeli question. It's very important. Jerry Falwell kept saying to his own crowd, yes, you have got to like the Jews, because they can make more money in 10 minutes than you can make in a lifetime. He was always full, as his friends Robertson and Graham are and were, of anti- Semitic innuendo.
Yet, in the most base and hypocritical way, he encouraged the worst elements among Jewry. He got Menachem Begin to give him the Jabotinsky Medal, celebrating an alliance between Christian fundamentalism and Jewish fanaticism that has ruined the chances for peace in the Middle East.
Lots of people are going to die and are already leading miserable lives because of the nonsense preached by this man.
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Hitchens joined Anderson Cooper last night on a shortened version of "AC360" to discuss the life of Jerry Falwell.
HITCHENS: The empty life of this ugly little charlatan proves only one thing: that you can get away with the most extraordinary offenses to morality and to truth in this country if you will just get yourself called Reverend.
Who would, even at your network, have invited on such a little toad to tell us that the attacks of September the 11th were the result of our sinfulness and were God's punishment if they hadn't got some kind of clerical qualification?
People like that should be out in the street, shouting and hollering with a cardboard sign and selling pencils from a cup.
HITCHENS: The whole consideration of this — of this horrible little person is offensive to very, very many of us who have some regard for truth and for morality, and who think that ethics do not require that lies be told to children by evil old men, that we're — we're not told that people who believe like Falwell will be snatched up into heaven, where I'm glad to see he skipped the rapture, was found on the floor of his office, while the rest of us go to hell.
How dare they talk to children like this? How dare they raise money from credulous people on their huckster-like (UNINTELLIGIBLE) radio stations, and fly around in private jets, as he did, giggling and sniggering all the time at what he was getting away with?
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HITCHENS: How dare he say, for example, that the Antichrist is already present amongst us and is an adult male Jew, while all the time, fawning on the worst elements in Israel, with his other hand pumping anti-Semitic innuendoes into American politics, along with his friends Robertson and Graham?
COOPER: And, yet, there are…
HITCHENS: … encouraging — encouraging — encouraging the most extreme theocratic fanatics and maniacs on the West Bank and in Gaza not to give an inch of what he thought of as holy land to the people who already live there, undercutting and ruining every Democrat and secularist in the Jewish state in the name of God?
HITCHENS: This is — this is — he's done us an enormous, enormous disservice by this sort of demagogy.
COOPER: What do you think it says about America that — and politics in America, that he was so successful in mobilizing huge swathes of the country to come out and vote?
HITCHENS: I'm not certain at all that he did deserve this reputation. And I…
COOPER: You don't think he does?
HITCHENS: Well, I'm not certain that he was a mobilizer. He certainly hoped to be one.
Well, the fact is that the country suffers, to a considerable extent, from paying too much, by way of compliment, to anyone who can describe themselves as a person of faith. Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, Chaucerian frauds, people who are simply pickpockets, who — and frauds — who prey on the gullible and…
COOPER: Do you believe he believed what he spoke?
HITCHENS: Of course not. He woke up every morning, as I say, pinching his chubby little flanks and thinking, I have got away with it again.
COOPER: You think he was a complete fraud, really?
HITCHENS: Yes.
COOPER: You don't believe that, I mean, in his reading of the Bible, you don't think he was sincere in his — I mean, whether you agree or not with his reading of the Bible, you don't think he was sincere in what he spoke?
HITCHENS: No. I think he was a conscious charlatan and bully and fraud.
And I think, if he read the Bible at all — and I would doubt that he could actually read any long book of — at all — that he did so only in the most hucksterish, as we say, Bible-pounding way.
I'm going to repeat what I said before about the Israeli question. It's very important. Jerry Falwell kept saying to his own crowd, yes, you have got to like the Jews, because they can make more money in 10 minutes than you can make in a lifetime. He was always full, as his friends Robertson and Graham are and were, of anti- Semitic innuendo.
Yet, in the most base and hypocritical way, he encouraged the worst elements among Jewry. He got Menachem Begin to give him the Jabotinsky Medal, celebrating an alliance between Christian fundamentalism and Jewish fanaticism that has ruined the chances for peace in the Middle East.
Lots of people are going to die and are already leading miserable lives because of the nonsense preached by this man.
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A great line:
HITCHENS: He woke up every morning, as I say, pinching his chubby little flanks and thinking, I have got away with it again.
DOUG
I tend to agree with Hitchens. When fundamentalists like Falwell consciously stray away from honest, open, academic freedom, and they have to start their own "universities" and Bible "colleges" because they can't compete in the marketplace of ideas, they know something is wrong with their own positions.
And don't forget: one of the first things Falwell did when he started his Liberty University place was give himself a doctorate.
Fraud through and through.
A great line:
HITCHENS: He woke up every morning, as I say, pinching his chubby little flanks and thinking, I have got away with it again.
DOUG
I tend to agree with Hitchens. When fundamentalists like Falwell consciously stray away from honest, open, academic freedom, and they have to start their own "universities" and Bible "colleges" because they can't compete in the marketplace of ideas, they know something is wrong with their own positions.
And don't forget: one of the first things Falwell did when he started his Liberty University place was give himself a doctorate.
Fraud through and through.
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Hitchens: "How dare they talk to children like this? How dare they raise money from credulous people on their huckster-like (UNINTELLIGIBLE) radio stations, and fly around in private jets, as he did, giggling and sniggering all the time at what he was getting away with?"
DOUG
The missing portion was perfectly intelligible. However, the person who made the transcript just didn't know the literary reference. Here it is:
"How dare they talk to children like this? How dare they raise money from credulous people on their huckster-like Elmer Gantry radio stations, and fly around in private jets, as he did, giggling and sniggering all the time at what he was getting away with?"
See Hitchens doing this great speech here.
DOUG
The missing portion was perfectly intelligible. However, the person who made the transcript just didn't know the literary reference. Here it is:
"How dare they talk to children like this? How dare they raise money from credulous people on their huckster-like Elmer Gantry radio stations, and fly around in private jets, as he did, giggling and sniggering all the time at what he was getting away with?"
See Hitchens doing this great speech here.
"We could have done something important Max. We could have fought child abuse or Republicans!" --Oona Hart (played by Victoria Foyt), in the 1995 movie "Last Summer in the Hamptons."
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Some Republican figures were expected for the funeral, but none of the party's presidential candidates said they could attend.
Read more here.
Read more here.
"We could have done something important Max. We could have fought child abuse or Republicans!" --Oona Hart (played by Victoria Foyt), in the 1995 movie "Last Summer in the Hamptons."