Iraq: The Hidden Story

Post by **Dardedar** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:10 pm

Iraq: The Hidden Story

What the media isn't showing in Iraq:

It's a gut-wrenching 49 minutes, but worth your time. Americans, these actions are being done in our name. This is our legacy.

LINK

Barbara Fitzpatrick · Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:27 am

I know too much about what is going on to be able to watch it. I don't know what else I can personally do to stop it. Writing, calling, and donating my little bits of money to groups that are marching doesn't seem to have done any good. I now know how the anti-nazi germans felt in the 1930s, watching Hitler take over and do evil things in their name. Fortunately the world mostly understood that it was Hitler, and didn't continue to hold it against them once he was gone.

Other than "keep on keepin' on" I can only see two alternatives - prayer, which I don't particularly believe in, and assassination, which I not only don't believe in, I'm not physically capable of (either getting close enough even for a distance weapon or actually fatally hitting the target - I'm not that good a shot). So far into evil has this administration brought me, that I actually consider assassination as lesser than the alternate evil of having them in charge for another 2 years. (Of course, unless it's done by a white supremist who thinks W's not "conservative" enough, it will just make a martyr of him - and probably end up with the Rs taking over the entire gummint again - AND it has to be a group so they can take out Cheney at the same time or the veep will be an uncontrolled attack dog, rather than just on a long leash.)

Post by **Savonarola** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:52 pm

Considering how anti-"anti-American" (which really means anti-American, mind you) a certain administration has been, it would probably be good if we didn't talk about assassination plots -- both here and elsewhere. We're already wasting enough money; let's not have the Secret Service send some suits to spend tens of thousands to investigate harmless people. (Plus, you know, nowadays people are thrown in jail and tortured for no reason at all...)

Barbara Fitzpatrick · Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:16 am

Can I just pray for salmonella in his peanut butter?

Post by **Savonarola** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:37 pm

Barbara Fitzpatrick wrote:Can I just pray for salmonella in his peanut butter?

Sure, as long as the Treasury Department doesn't find out and get all pissy.

Post by **Dardedar** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:15 am

DAR
Even the Treasury Dept knows prayer doesn't work. If it did, Bush would have expired some time ago.

LaWood · Post by **LaWood** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:40 am

"I don't know what else I can personally do to stop it.' Barbara

Feeling powerless is almost enough to drive one to extreme actions
but the gubbermint is ready for that, more ready for that than they
are to take constructive action on real emergencies like Katrina.
As we know from the 60s they love to encounter acts of personal
defiance and violence so those are more futile now than before.

I'm wondering how much TV ads cost? MoveOn ran some and had
some denied. We live in the heart of Rwingnut counties of Ark.
How can some minds be changed? posting back and forth amongst
our selves accomplishes little other than support.
L-

Post by **Savonarola** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:34 am

LaWood wrote:posting back and forth amongst our selves accomplishes little other than support.

Frankly, "support" in the form of sanity maintenance in the face of nation's people and leaders gone mad can be quite beneficial...

Barbara Fitzpatrick · Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:20 am

You're right, Sav - that fragile link to sanity is why I'm still visiting and posting. The feeling of hopelessness/powerlessness has shot my writing this month. I haven't been able to get out a "letter to the editor" at all - and I've been published every month since 2003. And yes, dictators love individual acts of violent protest - it gives them enough of an excuse that they keep the wingnuts supporting them.

Post by **Dardedar** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:21 pm

DAR
This doesn't go in the humor section, because it's not funny. Well...

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So you don't have to flip your computer monitor over to read the answer:

Answer: Definitely shoot A, H and B. Sometimes shoot C and D, don’t shoot E, J, F and I. Try not to shoot G, but if you do, we won’t worry too much about it.

Barbara Fitzpatrick · Post by **Barbara Fitzpatrick** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:15 pm

The lessons from Vietnam everybody except the current administration (who not only didn't go, they didn't pay attention - having "other priorities") learned were: 1) don't get mixed up in somebody else's civil war & 2) don't go to war where you can't tell the "good guys" from the "bad guys". I have never believed a person had to have military service to able to lead the country during war. FDR's only experience was as Asst. Secretary of the Navy. But he went to the battlefields in WWI while there were still bodies on them as part of his "duty" to report the facts to HIS president, and he was a serious student of history. Experience, study, or just giving a damn - any combination - is required. This group checked "none of the above".