Global Warming Deniers Sleazier than Creationists?

[Dardedar]

DAR
I used "creationists" in the heading because I didn't have room for "Intelligent Designers." I know the difference between the two, and it is slight.

We have had some denier stuff posted from the Heartland Institute recently.

Even sleazier than the DI

May 11, 2008, by PZ Myers

Climate change denialists have something in common with evolution denialists: they have a list of "500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares," just like the Discovery Institute's list of hundreds of 'scientists' who "Dissent from Darwinism". There is a difference, though: the DI got it's list by asking crackpots and specialists in irrelevant disciplines to volunteer to sign on, so it is a real (but silly) list that exposes the existence of a tiny minority of loons within science.

The Heartland Institute, a think-tank for right-wing denialists, isn't even that honest. They put their list together without consulting any of the authors they added to it — basically, anyone who published anything discussing the complexities or problems of climate analysis found their name added on to this list.

"I was surprised to find my name in the list of 'Co-Authors' in the Heartland Institute's web page," says Edward Cushing, professor emeritus in the U of M's Department of Ecology, Evolution and Behavior. "I resent their implication that I agree with one of more of their statements."

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Herbert Wright Jr. is a former regents professor in the U of M's Department of Geology, Ecology and Botany who was also named by Avery. "I requested that my name be removed from the list," Wright said, "but the perpetrator refused to do so."

Dozens of scientists have demanded that their names be removed from the list and that they be issued an apology, but the Heartland Institute opted instead to simply change the name of the study from "500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares" to "500 Scientists Whose Research Contradicts Man-Made Global Warming Scares." In a release accompanying the name change, Heartland Institute's Joseph Bast said the scientists "are embarrassed -- as they should be -- to see their names in a list of scientists whose peer-reviewed published work suggests the modern warming might be due to a natural 1,500-year climate cycle."

"I suppose the list included anyone who had published on past climatic changes as inferred from the dated geologic record, even without reference to human factors," said Wright, who did not seem the slightest bit embarrassed.

Wow. I never thought I'd find an anti-science outfit sleazier than the DI, but they've been topped.

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[Jae Baeli]

I believe, of course, that global warming is real. Just watched An Inconvenient Truth again, for the third time, now. It's just so clear. But, i did post a video last year i found claiming it as a hoax. What i want to know, is how to debunk the contents of that video, since it is convincing enough to spread the lie....

go to my blog to see it:
http://synapticcircus.blogspot.com/2008 ... -hoax.html

maybe one of you could point me in a direction that would provide debunking material for4 the claims made in that video.

[Dardedar]

What i want to know, is how to debunk the contents of that video, since it is convincing enough to spread the lie... maybe one of you could point me in a direction that would provide debunking material for4 the claims made in that video.

DAR
We almost showed that at a meeting but it was so bad, so dishonest, we decided not to waste peoples time with it. I have responded to it many times in this forum. Here is a thread on it specifically.

Here is a another very thorough response to it as well.

If you have any specific questions I can probably find the answer pretty quickly on this forum with our search engine. Realclimate.org is also an excellent source for good scientific answers to these questions.

"Swindled" is just a horrifically dishonest flick. The regular cast of clowns on parade.

D.