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Mormon Mythology Debunked by DNA Evidence

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Bedrock of a Faith Is Jolted

DNA tests contradict Mormon scripture. The church says the studies are being twisted to attack its beliefs.

By William Lobdell, Times Staff Writer
February 16, 2006

From the time he was a child in Peru, the Mormon Church instilled in Jose A. Loayza the conviction that he and millions of other Native Americans were descended from a lost tribe of Israel that reached the New World more than 2,000 years ago.

"We were taught all the blessings of that Hebrew lineage belonged to us and that we were special people," said Loayza, now a Salt Lake City attorney. "It not only made me feel special, but it gave me a sense of transcendental identity, an identity with God."

A few years ago, Loayza said, his faith was shaken and his identity stripped away by DNA evidence showing that the ancestors of American natives came from Asia, not the Middle East.

"I've gone through stages," he said. "Absolutely denial. Utter amazement and surprise. Anger and bitterness."

For Mormons, the lack of discernible Hebrew blood in Native Americans is no minor collision between faith and science. It burrows into the historical foundations of the Book of Mormon, a 175-year-old transcription that the church regards as literal and without error.

For those outside the faith, the depth of the church's dilemma can be explained this way: Imagine if DNA evidence revealed that the Pilgrims didn't sail from Europe to escape religious persecution but rather were part of a migration from Iceland — and that U.S. history books were wrong.

Critics want the church to admit its mistake and apologize to millions of Native Americans it converted. Church leaders have shown no inclination to do so. Indeed, they have dismissed as heresy any suggestion that Native American genetics undermine the Mormon creed.

Yet at the same time, the church has subtly promoted a fresh interpretation of the Book of Mormon intended to reconcile the DNA findings with the scriptures. This analysis is radically at odds with long-standing Mormon teachings.

Some longtime observers believe that ultimately, the vast majority of Mormons will disregard the genetic research as an unworthy distraction from their faith.

"This may look like the crushing blow to Mormonism from the outside," said Jan Shipps, a professor emeritus of religious studies at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis, who has studied the church for 40 years. "But religion ultimately does not rest on scientific evidence, but on mystical experiences. There are different ways of looking at truth."

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And another head-on collision between science and religion. Sure Mormons are decended of Jews - since Adam was a Jew, everybody is decended of Jews - don't you read the bible!?! Maybe the lost tribe went east and by the time they made it passed Tibet, the genes were as diluted as the active ingredient in a homeopathic remedy, and so don't register on DNA tests.
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Re: Mormon Mythology Debunked Spengler.

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I thought about giving this a new thread but decided it fit here just fine. This is from a writer/blogger who uses the name "Spengler" and he is on to many useful things.
Oddly he writes in the Asian Times Online. Though much of this is found in the previous YouTube I posted above.
Spengler puts it into historical perspective and adds some juicy details.

Joseph Smith, Sorcerer's Apprentice of American religion

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Just what is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, commonly called the Mormons? Joseph Smith Jr, the forger, treasure-hunter, magician, polygamist and self-styled priest-king of the American continent, invented an American version of Europe's ethnically-founded idolatry. Each European tribe that rebelled against Christianity styled itself the Chosen People. Smith concocted a tale in which Americans actually were the Chosen People, and America was the Promised Land of the ancient Hebrews and Jesus Christ. In short, Smith took to the extremes of fantasy and forgery an impulse towards national self-worship that always lurks somewhere in American Christianity.

Smith was the Sorcerer's Apprentice of American religion. The New England Puritans had set out to become a New Chosen People in a New Promised Land, and instead had become complacent and prosperous Unitarians. In the then frontier provinces of northern New York, where poor farmers came to try their luck after leaving the thin soil of New England, the notion of American Chosenness continued to resonate. In Smith's purloined account, America actually was the New Israel, the home of emigrating Hebrew tribes, and the site of Jesus' return to Earth.
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Re: Mormon Mythology Debunked by DNA Evidence

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more proof that the second M is indeed silent.
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There is actually a Moron in the Book of Mormon. Ether 1:7-8
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Re: Mormon Mythology Debunked by DNA Evidence

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RobertMadewell wrote:There is actually a Moron in the Book of Mormon. Ether 1:7-8
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Ether 11:14 "...and Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord."

That Moron!

Moron. The Angel Moroni. The Land of Moron. You can't tell me Joseph Smith wasn't having a little joke at the expense of his followers, perhaps testing how far he could push them and still get them to swallow every word.

Ether 1:7 "Coriantor was the son of Moron."

How many Mormons name their kids Moron in honor of Moron?

I did know a woman in South Texas with the last name Moron. It was in Spanish, but it means the same thing.
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Re: Mormon Mythology Debunked by DNA Evidence

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Doug wrote-
You can't tell me Joseph Smith wasn't having a little joke at the expense of his followers, perhaps testing how far he could push them and still get them to swallow every word.
Old Joe Smith wasn't the only one having a little fun (and profit) at the expense of his followers.


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