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"I'm sorry to tell you, there's going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars."
McCain

Two things come to mind:
1. He is telling the truth.
2. He is lying.

If (1) is true then how does he know? How is he so certain? Cheney was certain there would be war when he took office and now we know how Cheney knew because he had planned it all along.
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"Cheney knew because he had planned it all along.
DAR
It was on the neo-con to do list. Bush admits as much:

“He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,” said author, journalist [and Bush’s presidential ghost writer] Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.”
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Boy was he wrong about that last bit.
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As of May 2004:

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And this one:

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Wow, just found this huge resource for information:

The Bush Record:
Actions, Consequences, Failure, and Disasters in 2000-2008. An informative resource on the issues
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DOUG
Wow, Darrel, that second chart is amazing.

But Bush's final score might be far worse than that chart suggests.

Just today, Feb. 1, 2008:

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U.S. Economy Unexpectedly Sheds 17,000 Jobs

The economy lost 17,000 jobs in January, the Labor Department reported on Friday, the first monthly decline in four years and the most striking evidence yet that the United States may be slipping into a recession.

Until now, the labor market had been growing at a steady if softening pace. Many economists pointed to expanding payrolls as the final holdout in a sluggish economy weighed down by trouble on Wall Street, the collapse of the housing bubble, and a cascade of credit problems linked to soured subprime mortgages.

But the January employment report cast the job market in a startlingly darker light. Jobs disappeared across a broad spectrum of professions, with the steepest losses coming in the manufacturing, construction and goods-producing industries.

Adding to the gloom, the government said that the level of employment was sharply lower in December than it had originally estimated. The new figure was based on an annual review of every job covered by unemployment insurance.

“This is the clearest signal yet that the job market is either in or teetering on a recession,” said Jared Bernstein, senior economist at the liberal Economic Policy Institute in Washington.
See here.
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You can call [Hillary] 'establishment' all you want, but believe me, the establishment never had cleavage. -Gloria Feldt, feminist, author of Send Your Self Roses
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I can't really explain why, but that sculpture is disturbing.
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Nicholas Kristof, in his latest a NYT's article writes about the unwarranted deriding of evangelicals:
At a New York or Los Angeles cocktail party, few would dare make a pejorative comment about Barack Obama’s race or Hillary Clinton’s sex. Yet it would be easy to get away with deriding Mike Huckabee’s religious faith.

Liberals believe deeply in tolerance and over the last century have led the battles against prejudices of all kinds, but we have a blind spot about Christian evangelicals. They constitute one of the few minorities that, on the American coasts or university campuses, it remains fashionable to mock.

Scorning people for their faith is intrinsically repugnant, and in this case it also betrays a profound misunderstanding of how far evangelicals have moved over the last decade.
Steve Benon of C & R gives an excellent response to this:
I can appreciate Kristof’s point, but this is unpersuasive. First, the Huckabee comparison is flawed. Judging Clinton on her gender is ridiculous. Judging Obama on race and ethnicity is offensive. But when Kristof hears people disparaging Huckabee at cocktail parties, I suspect he’s hearing people mocking Huckabee’s ideas — which deserve to be fair game in the midst of a presidential campaign.

After all, the former Arkansas governor has been pretty far out there on the fringe. He rejects modern biology. He thinks wives should “submit graciously” to their husbands. He’s equated homosexuality with bestiality. He’s publicly endorsed “quarantining” AIDS patients; he’s boasted that God is directly helping his presidential campaign; and he’s said that if a man and a woman live together outside of marriage, they’re engaging in a “demeaning … alternate lifestyle.”

And if the intelligentsia ridicule these beliefs, they’re guilty of “intolerance” and “scorn” for the faithful? It’s the moral equivalent of racism and misogyny? I don’t think so.
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Betsy wrote:I can't really explain why, but that sculpture is disturbing.
You mean that bust is disturbing??
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Thats probably the point Doug :)

Something about the age-appropriate face along with the bust of a 20 year old seems odd...
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ChristianLoeschel wrote:Thats probably the point Doug :)

Something about the age-appropriate face along with the bust of a 20 year old seems odd...
In the age of cosmetic surgery, get used to it.

The MILF revolution has arrived...
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"The media has been cheering every time Obama smiles. But, Republicans know Hillary will be much more difficult to defeat because she has been tested and she has been vetted. They are hoping the Democrats blow it again and nominate Obama. If they do, McCain can walk into the White House without putting up his umbrella.
Obama cannot beat McCain, especially if there is any type of incident involving national security. Knowing Bush & Cheney like I do, you can bet your life there will be a national security incident before November."
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Obama can't beat McCain? Please.

Yes, he can.
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DAR
It may be the case that either one of them can beat him and my worries are for naught. I will be thrilled with either of them.

Now check this out. After a little searching I found what I wanted:

Super Tuesday:

TOTAL VOTES CAST

Clinton: 50.2% (7,347,971)

Obama: 49.8% (7,294,851)

vs.

Total votes cast in 21 GOP contests yesterday among McCain, Romney and Huckabee:

McCain: 43.1% (3,611,459)
Romney: 35.4% (2,961,834)
Huckabee: 21.5% (1,796,729)

For grand totals, vastly more Democrats than Republicans voted yesterday;

Democratic votes for Clinton and Obama: 14,622,822 (63.6%)
Republican votes for McCain, Romney and Huckabee: 8,370,022 (36.4%)

Put another way, the Clinton/Obama race drew 76% more voters than the McCain/Romney/Huckabee race.

TIME

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Darrel wrote:Put another way, the Clinton/Obama race drew 76% more voters than the McCain/Romney/Huckabee race.
DOUG
Yep, the GOP is toast in November no matter who they put up.
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yes, that's absolutely right. While the Democrats are coming out in record numbers to vote, the Repubs can't get excited about their raggedy band of half wits. Democrats are going to make absolutely sure they/we win this time.

MEANWHILE, turns out Hillary had to loan her campaign $5 million last month. That came out yesterday, so the Obama campaign sent out an email to its supporters with the challenge to raise another $5 to match her loan this year. In just over 24 hours, over 7.5 million has already been donated. That's incredible support -- especially coming from the little people who are donating less than $100 each.
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to be fair, I just read that Hillary has received $4 million in donations since Super Tuesday
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Obama, Clinton battle for big bucks

By CHARLES BABINGTON and NANCY BENAC, Associated Press Writers
2 hours, 46 minutes ago (Thursday evening)

NEW ORLEANS - Battling for every dollar and delegate, Barack Obama raised $7.2 million in Super Tuesday's wake and Hillary Rodham Clinton pulled in $6.4 million, stunning totals reflecting the intensity of their neck-and-neck race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

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"The stakes in November are high. This is an important election. Prosperity and peace are in the balance,..."
--Bush saying something true at the Conservative Political Action Conference this morning
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Cheney at the same party:

"The President has made the right decisions for the right reasons and he always reflected the values of the American people," Cheney declared, "Would I support those same decisions today? You're damn right I would."

Olbermann gives the only response that makes any sense:

"Yeah, but you're crazy."
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