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Fox News is in for a very rough 2008

by Eric Boehlert

My guess is that Fox News guru Roger Ailes has been reaching for the Tums more often than usual early in the New Year, and there are lots of reasons for the hovering angst.

Let's take an extended multiple choice quiz. Right now, which of the following topics is likely causing the discomfort inside Ailes' Fox News empire?

A) CNN's resurgence as the go-to cable destination for election coverage.
B) The incredible shrinking candidacy of Fox News' favored son, Rudy Giuliani.
C) The still-standing candidacy of Fox News nemesis and well-funded, anti-war GOP candidate Rep. Ron Paul.
D) The Democratic candidates' blanket refusal to debate on Fox News during the primary season.
E) Host Bill O'Reilly being so desperate for an interview from a Democratic contender that he had to schlep all the way to New Hampshire, where he shoved an aide to Sen. Barack Obama and then had to be calmed down by Secret Service agents.
F) Former Fox News architect and Ailes confidante Dan Cooper posting chapters from his a wildly unflattering tell-all book about his old boss. ("The best thing that ever happened to Roger Ailes was 9/11.")
G) The fledgling Fox Business Network, whose anemic ratings are in danger of being surpassed by some large city public access channels.
H) Host John Gibson's recent heartless attacks on actor Heath Ledger, just hours after the young actor was found dead.
I) Fox News reporter Major Garrett botching his "exclusive" that Paul Begala and James Carville were going to join Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, and then refusing to correct the record.

I'd say it's A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. (I doubt Gibson's grave-dancing or Garrett's whopper caused Ailes a moment's concern.)

Bottom line is that Fox News is in for a very rough 2008. And the umbrella reason for that is quite simple: Eight years ago the all-news cable channel went all-in on the presidency of George Bush and became a broadcast partner with the White House. Proof of that was on display Sunday night, January 27, during Fox News' prime-time, "Fighting to the Finish," an "historic documentary" on the final year of Bush's presidency. Filmed in HD and featuring "unprecedented access," according to the Fox News press release, the show was pure propaganda. (I must have missed Fox News' "Fighting to the Finish" special back in 2000, chronicling the conclusion of President Bill Clinton's second term and his "extraordinarily consequential tenure.")

The point is that Fox News years ago made an obvious decision to appeal almost exclusively to Republican viewers. The good news then for Fox News was that it succeeded. The bad news now for Fox News is that it succeeded.

Meaning, when the GOP catches a cold, everybody at Fox News gets sick. As blogger Logan Murphy put it at Crooks and Liars, "Watching FOXNews getting their comeuppance has been fun to watch. They made their bed, now they're having to lie in it and it's not too comfortable."

The most obvious signs of Fox News' downturn have been the cable ratings for the big primary and caucus votes this year, as well as the high-profile debates. With this election season generating unprecedented voter and viewer interest, Fox News' rating bumps to date have remained underwhelming, to say the least.

For instance, on the night of the big New Hampshire primary, CNN, which habitually trails behind Fox News in the prime-time race, attracted nearly 250,000 more viewers than its top competitor, marking a changing-of-the-guard of sorts.

The turnaround was striking when you consider that in 2004, even with no Republicans running against Bush, Fox News was still able to draw 200,000 more viewers than CNN on the night of the New Hampshire Democratic primary. Yet in 2008, with a very competitive GOP field, CNN was the ratings winner from New Hampshire.

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The problem for Fox News is that it's the Democratic race that's creating most of the excitement, yet Fox News has been forced to mostly watch the race from the sidelines. That's because last winter, after Fox News tried to smear Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) for purportedly attending a radical Muslim school as a child, liberal bloggers launched an initiative to get Democratic candidates to boycott a debate co-sponsored by Fox News and the Nevada Democratic Party. (The boycott, powered by Foxattacks.com, was later extended to any and all Fox News debates.)

The point of the online crusade was not to simply embarrass Fox News or rattle Nevada Democrats for being out of touch with the grassroots masses that distrusted and despised Fox News. The point, instead, was to begin chipping away, in a serious, consistent method, at Fox News' reputation. To spell out that Fox News was nothing more than a Republican mouthpiece and that Democrats need not engage with the News Corp. giant.

The lack of Democratic debates for Fox News has meant a huge setback for the news organization from a ratings perspective. Just look at the grand slam CNN hit last week when, on January 21, it broadcast the much-talked-about Democratic debate from South Carolina. The CNN event not only creamed Fox News in the ratings, nearly tripling its audience that night, but the debate set a new cable news mark for the most viewers ever to watch a primary debate.

In fact, of the 10 most-watched debates this election season, Fox has aired just two, compared to CNN's five. Of the 10 most-watched debates, six have featured Democrats; four Republicans.

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So I'm not the only one who feels like Fox News coverage, especially of the Republican field, often feels like a televised wake. Or maybe that's just been Fox News' collective, subconscious mourning of the Giuliani campaign.

After all, Sean Hannity serves as Fox News' official ambassador to the Giuliani campaign; a campaign that Ailes and Fox News were hoping to ride back into the White House. Yet despite showering Giuliani with all kinds of laudatory coverage, both Hannity and Ailes have been powerless, as they've watched Giuliani's rudderless campaign go nowhere for months.

Even an all-out Fox News marketing blitz to label Giuliani "America's Mayor" never got traction. In fact, it ranked right up there with the launch of New Coke, in terms of branding success. (Watch this clip to see the Fox News absurdity up-close.)

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Oh, and we can't forget the wildly hyped launch of the Fox Business Network, which, News Corp. execs bragged, would dethrone longtime cable business news champ CNBC. Of course, that might happen one day. But the early ratings for Fox Business Network have been unbelievably weak.

After two months on the air, Fox Business Network, available in 30 million homes, was attracting, on average, just 6,300 viewers on any given weekday, according to Nielsen Media Research. That was good for a nearly invisible .05 rating. (By comparison, CNBC during that period was attracting 265,000 viewers.)

Making matters worse for Ailes was the fact that on January 22, as fears mounted about a possible global financial crisis, CNBC posted its best ratings in seven years, attracting 401,000 viewers that day.

The hurdle for Fox Business Network has always been simple: Why would investors and day traders in search of reliable business information turn from CNBC over to the Fox brand, which is so well-known for passing along one-sided information? News Corp. always assumed Fox News would help launch the business channel. But Fox News is taken seriously by so few people, it may be hurting the business launch.

After all, Fox News continues to embarrass itself with a type of journalism that nobody else in the industry would dare call professional. And for proof of that look no further than Major Garrett, who is supposed to be one of the channel's nonpartisan, serious journalists. He landed a recent scoop about how former advisers to Bill Clinton, Paul Begala and James Carville, were getting set to join Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Carville immediately shot the story down, telling Talking Points Memo's Greg Sargent that very same day, "Fox was, is and will continue to be an asinine and ignorant network. I have not spoken to anyone in the Clinton campaign about this. I'm not getting back into domestic political consulting."

Begala did Carville one better and directly emailed Garrett to deny the story -- a story Garrett never bothered trying to check with Begala or Carville before it was broadcast. Garrett's response to Begala's blanket denial? Garrett told the Democratic operative that he would take his denial "under advisement." [Emphasis added.]

Garrett then went back on the air and repeated the same story, and added the fact that Begala had been on a conference call the day before with Clinton advisers, which was also false. And no, despite his earlier email exchange with Begala, Garrett never bothered to try to confirm the conference call story with him before reporting it on Fox News.

On his Fox News blog, Garrett did acknowledge the Begala email and claimed he'd be updating the fast-moving story soon -- which, he told readers, would likely be confirmed the next day when the Clinton campaign made the Begala/Carville announcement. But the next day when the story imploded, Garrett simply ignored the embarrassing gaffe.

Recounting the whole Kafka-esque charade at the Huffington Post, Begala wrote, "I've never had a more surrealistic day. If this is what one of Fox's best and most respected reporters is doing, what are the hacks up to?"

They're watching CNN capture the campaign ratings crown.

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Just a few thoughts:

1) I've read (I think Darrel posted it once) that Cheney ONLY watches Fox News, and wherever he goes he puts on his list of required amenities that Fox News be turned on the television in his hotel room at all times.

2) Anybody watch Keith Olberman's regular lambasting of Bill O'Really! on his MSNBC show? He doesn't pull any punches. And he's coined the term "Fox Noise"

3) I'm proud of our democratic candidates for refusing to grace Fox News with their presence.

4) And those low ratings are very interesting. That means people like Galt and LV Ash are just in the very loud-mouthed but tiny minority. Yippee!
Hillwilllose

FOX beats CNN & MSNBC Combined!

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Don't party yet... You can let your $7 box of "wine" age a few more days...

As always, Fox beat CNN and MSNBC (Are they still on?) COMBINED.

The Fox viewers even stayed tuned to the nut from Kansas giving her response. Fox viewers have open minds.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp



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WEDNESDAY JAN 30, 2008

FNC Wins SOTU Coverage
Fox News Channel won Monday's cable coverage of President Bush's final State of the Union address, beating CNN and MSNBC combined in both total viewers and the A25-54 demo (Live +SD). But as Fox News Channel declined in viewership year-over-year, CNN increased.

This year, FNC had 4,480,000 total viewers; CNN had 2,692,000 and MSNBC drew 1,183,000. During last year's coverage, FNC had 4,560,000 viewers, while CNN had 1,740,000 and MSNBC had 1,380,000. In 2006, FNC had their highest SOTU viewership with 6,462,000. CNN finished second that year with 2,210,000 and MSNBC had 707,000 total viewers.

Although this year's address was Bush's lowest rated on the networks combined (cable & broadcast), more viewers watched this year's SOTU on the three cable channels than did last year.

During this year's coverage in the A25-54 demo, FNC had 1,410,000 viewers; that's more than CNN (883,000) and MSNBC (521,000) combined.

FNC also won the coverage of Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius' Democratic response in both categories, again beating the other two networks combined in total viewers.
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Re: FOX beats CNN & MSNBC Combined!

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Hillwilllose wrote:Fox viewers have open minds.
DOUG
Ha Ha Ha Ha!

FAUX NEWS morons think we found the WMD's in Iraq!

Read this news item and weep, dude.

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A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last:

...The results about Fox News echo findings of previous surveys. In 2003, University of Maryland researchers studied the public’s belief in three false claims — that Iraq possessed WMD, that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that there was international support for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

The researchers stated, “The extent of Americans’ misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news. Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions.” Fox News viewers were “three times more likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions.”


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Doug wrote:A new study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last:

...The results about Fox News echo findings of previous surveys. In 2003, University of Maryland researchers studied the public’s belief in three false claims — that Iraq possessed WMD, that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that there was international support for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

The researchers stated, “The extent of Americans’ misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news. Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions.” Fox News viewers were “three times more likely than the next nearest network to hold all three misperceptions.”
This should have its own thread.
And its own primetime special.

Alas, I have only the pull for the first.
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Hillwilllose wrote: As always, Fox beat CNN and MSNBC (Are they still on?) COMBINED.
DAR
As always, the rightwingers distort. Fox is in major decline as the article shows (many more examples were included at the link). Their business channel is pulling 6,000 nationwide? What a joke. Perhaps Hillwill didn't read the article. Or even her own link which gives numerous examples of CNN alone, beating Faux. So your statement is clearly false. Here is a tip. Try to avoid blatantly false statements. It makes it hard to roast people like marshmellows when you do that.
During this year's coverage in the A25-54 demo, FNC had 1,410,000 viewers; that's more than CNN (883,000) and MSNBC (521,000) combined.
DAR
That sounds impressive until you do the math and find out it is practically a tie. 521 + 883 = 1,404 (v. 1,410). A difference of less than 1/2 of one percent. Hillwill has to cherry pick one show, and one demographic, on the one night the faux righties will show up and tune in to see if their man still has a pulse, a hope, a chance of not being a complete dead duck for his remaining months. Too bad on that one, Bush's record as a complete disaster for America is clear, sealed and irrefutable. Why did non-Faux channels have a low turnout for Bush's recitation of words on a screen? Sensible people are sick of seeing him and like me, didn't watch. And sensible people don't watch Faux.

Why did Faux viewers watch the democratic response? Maybe Bush's record and destruction of the GOP is getting so blatant that they are desperately looking for hope somewhere else. As a line in a sirus ad says: "Even conservatives are abandoning their president."

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Uhhhh... but Fox STILL beats CNN & MSNBC Combined...

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Glad to read that Darrell and Doug are wine lovers- I guess I had not considered the fact the you guys might be Limousine Liberals. Hey- the "I'm independently wealthy and I choose to teach" angle can get you some pretty hot chicks (Hopefully over 18) I've been told- Congratulations to you both.

At the end of the end, Fox is by far the Number 1 cable network because of the quality of the programming. They even hired Robert & Ethel Kennedy's kid as a reporter (Doug Kennedy). He has been there 11 years so I guess he doesn't believe your silly bias claims.

So- you and they other 48 confused liberals in Fayetteville enjoy your MSNBC- me and the greedy, wealth obsessed church goers (5,000+???) will enjoy America's #1 rated news channel.

It's hard to gather the energy to respond to the silly Galt bashing that takes place on this forum. I do appreciate Betsy's kind words- civility is always a good thing. I have single handedly driven up your traffic from 10 daily to 20- If we can keep up this growth rate- you guys might become Google Adword Millionaires. I'll do my best to help you, since I desire the very best for all.

When I respond- you guys respond with some silliness topped with some deranged lunatic ravings that you have just kick my posterior. I know you enjoy it- the problem is that your ALWAYS wrong. So forgive me if I'm unable to respond to all of your insults- I do appreciate that you care for me.

I'm off to enjoy nice bottle of wine- please give up your box and upgrade to a real bottle, you both deserve it.

Cheers,

Your happy pal.
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John Galt wrote:Glad to read that Darrell and Doug are wine lovers-
DAR
Don't believe everything you read Galt. Be especially skeptical since it was a claim by Hillwill who as usual has no idea and is in fact incorrect.
They even hired Robert & Ethel Kennedy's kid as a reporter (Doug Kennedy). He has been there 11 years so I guess he doesn't believe your silly bias claims.
DAR
Non sequitur. Look it up.
It's hard to gather the energy to respond to the silly Galt bashing that takes place on this forum.
DAR
It's actually direct rebuttal to specific comments. You should try it some time. I certainly understand why it would be hard for you to "gather the energy" to defend your claims, I certainly wouldn't want to either. But I still would because that's the way I operate.
When I respond- you guys respond with some silliness topped with some deranged lunatic ravings...
DAR
Galt, if you subtract the insults from your posts there is very little left. If think you have made a point of substance that I have not directly responded to, point it out and I gladly will.
the problem is that your ALWAYS wrong.
DAR
Perhaps you could give an example? And back it up?
forgive me if I'm unable to respond to all of your insults-
DAR
If you would like to raise your conversation to an adult level, at any time, I will be glad to have you join us.

If you subtract your non-sequitur claim regarding Doug Kennedy, your post is nothing but a lame attempt at insult. You have an opportunity for substantive response to points but consistently avoid that method. That's unfortunate.

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In 2004, on the night of the New Hampshire primary, for example, Fox News beat CNN by 200,000 viewers, despite the fact that there was no Republican contest at the time. Four years later, CNN beat Fox News by 250,000 viewers, despite very competitive contests in both parties. (On Saturday night, when results of the Dems’ South Carolina primary were dominating the news, Fox News came in third, behind both CNN and MSNBC.)

CNN President Jonathan Klein, following its New Hampshire ratings win, said, “There’s a freshness and exuberance to our coverage that the others just aren’t matching…. Fox almost seems downright despondent in their coverage.”

It couldn’t have happened to a more appropriate network.

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DAR
A little more on this, from about six months ago:

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Fox News' Ratings Take a Nosedive

Posted Tuesday August 29, 2006 at 05:12 PM

"Somewhere, Keith Olbermann is sticking pins in a Bill O'Reilly voodoo doll: Fox News' ratings, TVNewser reports, are down since August of last year. Like, way down. Like down 28 percent in primetime among all viewers, down 20 percent in primetime in the "money demo" (viewers aged 25-54) and down 7 percent in daytime viewership overall. In fact, the only place Fox is up is during the day, when they managed a ratings increase of just 2 percent, and even then only in the money demo.

And lest you think this is an industry-wide trend, consider this: over the same time period, CNN and MSNBC are up. CNN's up 35 percent during the day -- 46 percent in the money demo -- and up 21 percent in primetime overall, 25 percent in the money demo. MSNBC's ratings increases aren't quite as impressive -- up 6 percent in primetime overall, 8 percent in the money demo, and up 36 percent in the money demo during the day, 26 percent overall."

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Glad to read that Darrell and Doug are wine lovers- I guess I had not considered the fact the you guys might be Limousine Liberals. Hey- the "I'm independently wealthy and I choose to teach" angle can get you some pretty hot chicks (Hopefully over 1Cool I've been told- Congratulations to you both
Using your political ideology as pick up lines? That's a new one.
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CNN Dem Debate Most Watched in Cable History

Breaking: Last night's Democratic debate on CNN drew 8,324,000 million total viewers, making it the most-watched primary debate in cable news history, and the second-most watched on TV this election cycle (ABC's Democratic debate on Jan. 5 drew 9,360,000)

The debate gives CNN the top five highest rated cable debates this cycle in total viewers.

> Update: In the A25-54 demo, the debate finished with 3,257,000 viewers, the #1 take in cable news history as well.

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DAR
This was one of the few debates I actually watched and it was excellent. Two adults who know what they are talking about and making sense. It is going to be so nice to have a grown-up in the White House again. However, I except the Daily Show won't be as nearly as funny as during the Bush years.

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